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	<title>Comments on: Epub readers: Adobe Digital Editions, FBReader and OpenBerg Lector—reviewed with a little tough love</title>
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		<title>By: Fer Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-933321</link>
		<dc:creator>Fer Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review. But a question for all:
I&#039;d like to know more about the CSS specs that doesn&#039;t work for epub. Joseph wrote: &quot;To begin with, you should know that not all of the CSS 2.0 specification is supported in epub, so some things can’t be done.&quot; I noticed that and it&#039;s is frustrating.  I can&#039;t find a list of these things, is there a list, a review? I&#039;m interested specially in using the selectors of css2 for atributes. Things like this :
*[lang&#124;=&quot;en&quot;] { color : red } (where * = any class en [..] is a attribute. 
doesn&#039;t seem to work at all.
Hope somebody can give me a link or an answer.
Ferdinand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review. But a question for all:<br />
I&#8217;d like to know more about the CSS specs that doesn&#8217;t work for epub. Joseph wrote: &#8220;To begin with, you should know that not all of the CSS 2.0 specification is supported in epub, so some things can’t be done.&#8221; I noticed that and it&#8217;s is frustrating.  I can&#8217;t find a list of these things, is there a list, a review? I&#8217;m interested specially in using the selectors of css2 for atributes. Things like this :<br />
*[lang|="en"] { color : red } (where * = any class en [..] is a attribute.<br />
doesn&#8217;t seem to work at all.<br />
Hope somebody can give me a link or an answer.<br />
Ferdinand</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Sperberg</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-667772</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Sperberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the FullFullScreen add-on to completely remove all visible signs of Firefox when reading a text in Lector.

I&#039;ve also tried some double-column layouts that look very much like a hardcover double-page spread on my laptop.

With a stylesheet specified, you can also read any XML file in Lector, not just XHTML. The built-in SVG support is great, but does not include animation at present; the release of FF 3.0 should bring new capabilities.

And Lector will display MathML with no problem.

Roger

PS: I am beginning to explore what it will take to get Lector to run on the Nokia Internet Tablet. It looks very promising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the FullFullScreen add-on to completely remove all visible signs of Firefox when reading a text in Lector.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also tried some double-column layouts that look very much like a hardcover double-page spread on my laptop.</p>
<p>With a stylesheet specified, you can also read any XML file in Lector, not just XHTML. The built-in SVG support is great, but does not include animation at present; the release of FF 3.0 should bring new capabilities.</p>
<p>And Lector will display MathML with no problem.</p>
<p>Roger</p>
<p>PS: I am beginning to explore what it will take to get Lector to run on the Nokia Internet Tablet. It looks very promising.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoric</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-667358</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one quick word: removing the FF interface can be achieved by installing extension &quot;FullerScreen&quot; -- and pressing F11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one quick word: removing the FF interface can be achieved by installing extension &#8220;FullerScreen&#8221; &#8212; and pressing F11.</p>
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		<title>By: Ebook Creation Links &#124; Idiotprogrammer</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-612399</link>
		<dc:creator>Ebook Creation Links &#124; Idiotprogrammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joseph Gray reviews epub compatibility for current readers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joseph Gray reviews epub compatibility for current readers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-608569</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One additional comment. If DE does become too much of a nusance or a privacy concern, I&#039;ll find some other software to read with, as I&#039;m sure others will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One additional comment. If DE does become too much of a nusance or a privacy concern, I&#8217;ll find some other software to read with, as I&#8217;m sure others will.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-608559</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not enamored with having ads in my ebooks, but I understand that ads are going to be used to support some free content. This doesn&#039;t negate the need to be able to use the reader software offline, without problems. It also doesn&#039;t negate the security and privacy concerns. In fact, if indeed things will become ad supported, does that mean that my reading habits will now be sold to advertisers, so I can be a target of unsolicited offers?

I&#039;m on the US do-not-call list so that telemarketers don&#039;t constantly bother me. I don&#039;t want to deal with internet telemarketers as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not enamored with having ads in my ebooks, but I understand that ads are going to be used to support some free content. This doesn&#8217;t negate the need to be able to use the reader software offline, without problems. It also doesn&#8217;t negate the security and privacy concerns. In fact, if indeed things will become ad supported, does that mean that my reading habits will now be sold to advertisers, so I can be a target of unsolicited offers?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the US do-not-call list so that telemarketers don&#8217;t constantly bother me. I don&#8217;t want to deal with internet telemarketers as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Hindawi</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-608525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed Hindawi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent review from Joseph Gray. Thanks a lot.

As for Adobe DE connecting to the internet even if you are readying a local file, Adobe said that future editions will carry advertisements (with two exceptions if I recall -- if you have a subscription to their ad-free version of DE or if you are reading a DRMed document from one of their participating publisher customers where they will charging the publisher a DRM fee). May be this is one reason why ADE connects to the internet even if you don&#039;t need that for the reading of a local file, since Adobe will need that in the next versions to serve the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent review from Joseph Gray. Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>As for Adobe DE connecting to the internet even if you are readying a local file, Adobe said that future editions will carry advertisements (with two exceptions if I recall &#8212; if you have a subscription to their ad-free version of DE or if you are reading a DRMed document from one of their participating publisher customers where they will charging the publisher a DRM fee). May be this is one reason why ADE connects to the internet even if you don&#8217;t need that for the reading of a local file, since Adobe will need that in the next versions to serve the ads.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2007/11/05/epub-readers-adobe-digital-editions-fbreader-and-openberg-lector%e2%80%94reviewed-with-a-little-tough-love/comment-page-1/#comment-606986</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph did a great job. I hope you and others will use this comment area  to suggest features you especially want in epub-capable readers. Folks at Adobe and other companies read us, and ideally they&#039;ll see your comments and pay attention. 

Speaking of the review, Joseph was oh so right about the need to make DE more like a standard windows program. It can still have a reading mode with the page surrounded by a dark background. 

As for a PDA version, I hope it will be coming soon and that it will use a logical Mobipocket-style interface with simple icons on the main screen and well organized instructions &quot;underneath.&quot; 

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph did a great job. I hope you and others will use this comment area  to suggest features you especially want in epub-capable readers. Folks at Adobe and other companies read us, and ideally they&#8217;ll see your comments and pay attention. </p>
<p>Speaking of the review, Joseph was oh so right about the need to make DE more like a standard windows program. It can still have a reading mode with the page surrounded by a dark background. </p>
<p>As for a PDA version, I hope it will be coming soon and that it will use a logical Mobipocket-style interface with simple icons on the main screen and well organized instructions &#8220;underneath.&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Martinengo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Martinengo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice job on the reviews.

Maybe its just Monday, but if this is the state of the art, I&#039;m depressed. &#039;Readers&#039; seem like a technology backwater at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job on the reviews.</p>
<p>Maybe its just Monday, but if this is the state of the art, I&#8217;m depressed. &#8216;Readers&#8217; seem like a technology backwater at the moment.</p>
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