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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft watermarks clutter up public domain works&#8212;and Google-style copyright issues also arise</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once in the PD, always in the PD. 

They could just as usefully warn people that they are forbidden to eat it with tomato sauce; that warning would have just as much legal effect. 

However, I see no reason why they can&#039;t tag the book to show who did the work of making it available to us. Credit lines are always in good taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once in the PD, always in the PD. </p>
<p>They could just as usefully warn people that they are forbidden to eat it with tomato sauce; that warning would have just as much legal effect. </p>
<p>However, I see no reason why they can&#8217;t tag the book to show who did the work of making it available to us. Credit lines are always in good taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Klaus Graf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Klaus Graf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a good word for this: Copyfraud (see Mazzone&#039;s excellent article)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a good word for this: Copyfraud (see Mazzone&#8217;s excellent article)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Carnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Carnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also occasionally see people trying to establish a copyright interest in OCR&#039;ed text of a public domain text. I&#039;ve seen universities, for example, that have taken a public domain newspaper article, posted the text of that in a web page and put a very clear &quot;this is copyright.&quot; IANAL but its my understanding such claims would be especially weak in court so I&#039;ve tended to ignore them and reproduce it anyway (thought not identically to the U&#039;s presentation). But it creates a lot of FUD as well as confusion about whether these docs are really in the public domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also occasionally see people trying to establish a copyright interest in OCR&#8217;ed text of a public domain text. I&#8217;ve seen universities, for example, that have taken a public domain newspaper article, posted the text of that in a web page and put a very clear &#8220;this is copyright.&#8221; IANAL but its my understanding such claims would be especially weak in court so I&#8217;ve tended to ignore them and reproduce it anyway (thought not identically to the U&#8217;s presentation). But it creates a lot of FUD as well as confusion about whether these docs are really in the public domain.</p>
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