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	<title>Comments on: Jerry Seinfeld, DRM and locked music</title>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I can&#039;t say for sure, but my guess is that there&#039;s no exception for ordinary users. As for MS Reader, Microsoft has changed DRM before to thwart piracy, as we both know. Who knows what it&#039;ll do in the future. I&#039;d hope that Microsoft wouldn&#039;t be so clueless, but anything&#039;s possible. Thanks. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I can&#8217;t say for sure, but my guess is that there&#8217;s no exception for ordinary users. As for MS Reader, Microsoft has changed DRM before to thwart piracy, as we both know. Who knows what it&#8217;ll do in the future. I&#8217;d hope that Microsoft wouldn&#8217;t be so clueless, but anything&#8217;s possible. Thanks. David</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s one important difference between the MSN Music situation and the ebook situation. Microsoft haven&#039;t taken any steps to restore the integrity of MS Reader DRM, so if they were to shut down the activation server for MS Reader, at least people would still be able to strip the DRM from their purchased ebooks using Convert LIT. Thankfully this doesn&#039;t seem likely at the moment - even Microsoft&#039;s ageing MSLit.com site still works and actually has up-to-date data about a few ebooks that I thought weren&#039;t even available in MS Reader format.

Is there any kind of exception in the DMCA for stripping DRM where the originating service shut down or went out of business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s one important difference between the MSN Music situation and the ebook situation. Microsoft haven&#8217;t taken any steps to restore the integrity of MS Reader DRM, so if they were to shut down the activation server for MS Reader, at least people would still be able to strip the DRM from their purchased ebooks using Convert LIT. Thankfully this doesn&#8217;t seem likely at the moment &#8211; even Microsoft&#8217;s ageing MSLit.com site still works and actually has up-to-date data about a few ebooks that I thought weren&#8217;t even available in MS Reader format.</p>
<p>Is there any kind of exception in the DMCA for stripping DRM where the originating service shut down or went out of business?</p>
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