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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Todd. I wonder if &quot;extra hardware&quot; means a 2G SD card--which would be no big deal. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Todd. I wonder if &#8220;extra hardware&#8221; means a 2G SD card&#8211;which would be no big deal. David</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Another possible factor, from an article that appeared yesterday on Ars Technica: &lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The New York Times says that the Windows license and the extra hardware required to support Windows brings the total cost of the XO machines up to approximately $200 each&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Dunno what this business about &quot;extra hardware required to support Windows&quot; is all about, but it may preclude installing XP on existing XOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Another possible factor, from an article that appeared yesterday on Ars Technica: <i><br />
<blockquote>The New York Times says that the Windows license and the extra hardware required to support Windows brings the total cost of the XO machines up to approximately $200 each</p></blockquote>
<p></i>Dunno what this business about &#8220;extra hardware required to support Windows&#8221; is all about, but it may preclude installing XP on existing XOs.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd: I&#039;m not getting my hopes up, but I did see the following just now in an &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Official_OLPC_FAQ#Can_I_load_Microsoft_Windows_or_my_own_software_onto_the_XO_laptop.3F&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAQ in an OLPC Wiki&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;Can I load Microsoft Windows or my own software onto the XO laptop?

&quot;At this exact moment in time, no, but possibly in the near future.

&quot;OLPC maintains a firm and unequivocal commitment to open source software. Having an open system is fundamental to OLPC&#039;s mission, please see: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en

&quot;Any software developed by or for OLPC is released under GPL v2. The open source community remains a critical success factor in the one laptop per child mission.

&quot;Microsoft is developing a version of its XP operating system that runs on the XO laptop. OLPC will continue to develop its Linux-based OS and distribute it on all its XO laptops. Future distributions may include both open and proprietary software; however, the choice of what to use will remain the child&#039;s and the default will remain open source.&quot; 

Still ambiguity here, but who knows? Perhaps the support would come from Microsoft (seller of the XP) rather than OLPC.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd: I&#8217;m not getting my hopes up, but I did see the following just now in an <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Official_OLPC_FAQ#Can_I_load_Microsoft_Windows_or_my_own_software_onto_the_XO_laptop.3F" rel="nofollow">FAQ in an OLPC Wiki</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can I load Microsoft Windows or my own software onto the XO laptop?</p>
<p>&#8220;At this exact moment in time, no, but possibly in the near future.</p>
<p>&#8220;OLPC maintains a firm and unequivocal commitment to open source software. Having an open system is fundamental to OLPC&#8217;s mission, please see: <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Any software developed by or for OLPC is released under GPL v2. The open source community remains a critical success factor in the one laptop per child mission.</p>
<p>&#8220;Microsoft is developing a version of its XP operating system that runs on the XO laptop. OLPC will continue to develop its Linux-based OS and distribute it on all its XO laptops. Future distributions may include both open and proprietary software; however, the choice of what to use will remain the child&#8217;s and the default will remain open source.&#8221; </p>
<p>Still ambiguity here, but who knows? Perhaps the support would come from Microsoft (seller of the XP) rather than OLPC.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  It appears that the Dobies now remove hypertext links from posts.  The &quot;scathing rant&quot; to which I referred above can be found at &quot;radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  It appears that the Dobies now remove hypertext links from posts.  The &#8220;scathing rant&#8221; to which I referred above can be found at &#8220;radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David asks:

&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone know if/when existing XO-1 owners in the Give One Get One program will get access to Windows?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath if I were you.  By all accounts OLPC has huge infrastructure problems, and I seriously doubt that software upgrades for devices they&#039;ve already sold are anywhere near the top of their priority list.  My guess is that you&#039;ll have to wait for the Give Another One, Get Another One program to be announced.

And that&#039;s assuming OPLC manages to stay afloat.  Key members of the project team have been dropping like flies recently, and if this &lt;a&gt; scathing rant&lt;/a&gt; is representative, OLPC may well be on its last legs.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

That assertion certainly made for good propaganda, but I suspect that in reality it was Double-N&#039;s baby all the way.  The open source community doesn&#039;t usually warm to benevolent despots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David asks:</p>
<p><i><br />
<blockquote>Anyone know if/when existing XO-1 owners in the Give One Get One program will get access to Windows?</p></blockquote>
<p></i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath if I were you.  By all accounts OLPC has huge infrastructure problems, and I seriously doubt that software upgrades for devices they&#8217;ve already sold are anywhere near the top of their priority list.  My guess is that you&#8217;ll have to wait for the Give Another One, Get Another One program to be announced.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s assuming OPLC manages to stay afloat.  Key members of the project team have been dropping like flies recently, and if this <a> scathing rant</a> is representative, OLPC may well be on its last legs.</p>
<p><i><br />
<blockquote>OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community</p></blockquote>
<p></i></p>
<p>That assertion certainly made for good propaganda, but I suspect that in reality it was Double-N&#8217;s baby all the way.  The open source community doesn&#8217;t usually warm to benevolent despots.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill and Alan...

B: Actually there is the risk of DRM ending up on the XO because of pressure from misguided educational publishers. As for commercial vs. noncommerical, I still maintain that economies of scale would be more achievable without sharp lines between the two. Then we&#039;d see more apps created. A bunch of open source people did get XOs as developers, and I just wish one of them had gone to the trouble to Sugarize FBReader.

A: Couldn&#039;t agree with you more about the barriers that Sugar threw up. Remember, though: OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community. So the mistake happened within it.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill and Alan&#8230;</p>
<p>B: Actually there is the risk of DRM ending up on the XO because of pressure from misguided educational publishers. As for commercial vs. noncommerical, I still maintain that economies of scale would be more achievable without sharp lines between the two. Then we&#8217;d see more apps created. A bunch of open source people did get XOs as developers, and I just wish one of them had gone to the trouble to Sugarize FBReader.</p>
<p>A: Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more about the barriers that Sugar threw up. Remember, though: OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community. So the mistake happened within it.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wallcraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wallcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isn&#039;t with the open source community.  OLPC essentially &quot;closed&quot; the XO-1 by requiring everything to go though the Sugar interface.  If OLPC had made it easy to integrate existing Linux apps into the machine then they could have leveraged a much wider community.  Instead their solution is to switch to another OS and (presumably) not tie it to Sugar.  Then Linux can be blamed for the problem, instead of OLPC&#039;s poor design choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t with the open source community.  OLPC essentially &#8220;closed&#8221; the XO-1 by requiring everything to go though the Sugar interface.  If OLPC had made it easy to integrate existing Linux apps into the machine then they could have leveraged a much wider community.  Instead their solution is to switch to another OS and (presumably) not tie it to Sugar.  Then Linux can be blamed for the problem, instead of OLPC&#8217;s poor design choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Monks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Monks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify what I said there. I&#039;m not suggesting that the OLPC project themselves are going to release a commercial version. It would jar with them being a charity.

However the technology behind the XO can be licensed so the screen could surface in other tablets. In fact I&#039;m pretty sure the lady behind the screen tech (too lazy to look up) left the project with a view to commercializing the technology, possibly in the e-book area but I can&#039;t remember the specifics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify what I said there. I&#8217;m not suggesting that the OLPC project themselves are going to release a commercial version. It would jar with them being a charity.</p>
<p>However the technology behind the XO can be licensed so the screen could surface in other tablets. In fact I&#8217;m pretty sure the lady behind the screen tech (too lazy to look up) left the project with a view to commercializing the technology, possibly in the e-book area but I can&#8217;t remember the specifics.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Monks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Monks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, I’m disappointed mainly at the OLPC leadership. But the free and open source community didn’t help, either. In e-book terms, an XO-ized FBReader could have made a world of difference in the ease of use and flexibility of the XO-1 as a reading tool—and thus have helped to make the open approach more appealing. Weren’t e-books to be among the XO-1’s main apps?&quot;

The XO isn&#039;t a commercial device so chances are there aren&#039;t that many in the hands of opensource developers anyway. As it isn&#039;t (and can&#039;t be) a commercial project I doubt there&#039;ll be much effort put into DRMed e-books by MS, particularly as it&#039;s going to be hard enough to squeeze XP onto an XO as it is.

What you&#039;re REALLY looking forward to is the 2nd generation of licensed and commercialized XOs which should be coming any day now (hopefully). I&#039;m sure those will come with the option of XP - it wouldn&#039;t make any sense for them not to. Using the UMPC XP license that&#039;s now been given the greenlight by MS should let them run most Windows software.

All theoretical, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, I’m disappointed mainly at the OLPC leadership. But the free and open source community didn’t help, either. In e-book terms, an XO-ized FBReader could have made a world of difference in the ease of use and flexibility of the XO-1 as a reading tool—and thus have helped to make the open approach more appealing. Weren’t e-books to be among the XO-1’s main apps?&#8221;</p>
<p>The XO isn&#8217;t a commercial device so chances are there aren&#8217;t that many in the hands of opensource developers anyway. As it isn&#8217;t (and can&#8217;t be) a commercial project I doubt there&#8217;ll be much effort put into DRMed e-books by MS, particularly as it&#8217;s going to be hard enough to squeeze XP onto an XO as it is.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re REALLY looking forward to is the 2nd generation of licensed and commercialized XOs which should be coming any day now (hopefully). I&#8217;m sure those will come with the option of XP &#8211; it wouldn&#8217;t make any sense for them not to. Using the UMPC XP license that&#8217;s now been given the greenlight by MS should let them run most Windows software.</p>
<p>All theoretical, of course.</p>
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