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	<title>Comments on: Bad news for e-books: Microsoft Live Search Books and journal searcher to go dead</title>
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		<title>By: LuYu</title>
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		<dc:creator>LuYu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Rothman said:

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LuYu, we need all kinds of competitors—large and small. How many people have Microsoft’s resources?
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Just to be clear, I totally agree with this in principle.  However, I am talking about Microsoft, not all proprietary software vendors.  While businesses do different things to protect their commercial interests, Microsoft has a long and distinguished track record of wicked business practices.  They also have a history of being hostile towards choice in the market and Freedom in general.  Diversity is good.  Microsoft, specifically, is bad, and their money is dirty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Rothman said:</p>
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LuYu, we need all kinds of competitors—large and small. How many people have Microsoft’s resources?
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<p>Just to be clear, I totally agree with this in principle.  However, I am talking about Microsoft, not all proprietary software vendors.  While businesses do different things to protect their commercial interests, Microsoft has a long and distinguished track record of wicked business practices.  They also have a history of being hostile towards choice in the market and Freedom in general.  Diversity is good.  Microsoft, specifically, is bad, and their money is dirty.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft axes Live Search Book and Live Search Academic &#171; (Digital) Humanities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft axes Live Search Book and Live Search Academic &#171; (Digital) Humanities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news has caused a stir in the e-book world, with some bloggers like David Rothman describing the move as a blow to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Gillham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Gillham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 05:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been downloading and backing up loads of the public domain books that have been digitalised, if I think I will want to read it in the future. We can trust neither Governments or Private Enterprise to back these initiatives for ever and private persons who run similar things in their spare time just get tired... If I could I&#039;d back up the whole Internet archive, I do have the latest Gutenberg DVD.  Ebooks give me the chance to pursue my studies and interests from home. And that is precious to me. I&#039;m grateful for what MS have done but we needed more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been downloading and backing up loads of the public domain books that have been digitalised, if I think I will want to read it in the future. We can trust neither Governments or Private Enterprise to back these initiatives for ever and private persons who run similar things in their spare time just get tired&#8230; If I could I&#8217;d back up the whole Internet archive, I do have the latest Gutenberg DVD.  Ebooks give me the chance to pursue my studies and interests from home. And that is precious to me. I&#8217;m grateful for what MS have done but we needed more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 04:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LuYu, we need all kinds of competitors---large and small. How many people have Microsoft&#039;s resources? 

The other thing is that the existence of commercial products keeps open source people more alert as to users&#039; needs. 

Even then, free/open source folks might fail. A prime example is the XO-1&#039;s reading app---oh, how the built-in reader sucks! 

One open alternative, FBReader, is great but it has a way to go and even now is not Sugarized. 

So my position remains: I want both models, free/open and commercial, to flourish---with tech standards, vigorous anti-trust enforcement and other tools used to keep Microsoft from taking over the cosmos. 

I&#039;d also love to see massive foundation support of open source software, just so the money comes with strings: namely a requirement that coders be responsive to users. 

Here&#039;s to the mixed approach! Diversity is good in both biology and software dev!

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LuYu, we need all kinds of competitors&#8212;large and small. How many people have Microsoft&#8217;s resources? </p>
<p>The other thing is that the existence of commercial products keeps open source people more alert as to users&#8217; needs. </p>
<p>Even then, free/open source folks might fail. A prime example is the XO-1&#8217;s reading app&#8212;oh, how the built-in reader sucks! </p>
<p>One open alternative, FBReader, is great but it has a way to go and even now is not Sugarized. </p>
<p>So my position remains: I want both models, free/open and commercial, to flourish&#8212;with tech standards, vigorous anti-trust enforcement and other tools used to keep Microsoft from taking over the cosmos. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also love to see massive foundation support of open source software, just so the money comes with strings: namely a requirement that coders be responsive to users. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to the mixed approach! Diversity is good in both biology and software dev!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: LuYu</title>
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		<dc:creator>LuYu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would I be totally crazy if I viewed this as a positive thing?

It seems to me that MS has been quite busy destroying other improvements in our information environment lately, and one less cookie pot for their grubby hands sounds like a very good development to me.  After all this OOXML garbage -- with their blatant bribery and bullying of standards bodies -- and MS&#039;s recent efforts to destroy OLPC, one can only imagine how much more damage they would do if they could find a way to control the ebook world for their coffers.

At Microsoft, Freedom is the enemy, so when the Big Bad Wolf goes to another neighborhood, I think it has to be good for all of us (except, of course, the people in the target neighborhood).

As for competition, that should come from us:  Everybody who is working toward better solutions for ebooks.  We should come up with better solutions.  We may not have Microsoft&#039;s money, but we (the citizens of the internet) have more people with more free time than all their employees combined.  This is an opportunity to create something good while Big Brother Bill is otherwise engaged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would I be totally crazy if I viewed this as a positive thing?</p>
<p>It seems to me that MS has been quite busy destroying other improvements in our information environment lately, and one less cookie pot for their grubby hands sounds like a very good development to me.  After all this OOXML garbage &#8212; with their blatant bribery and bullying of standards bodies &#8212; and MS&#8217;s recent efforts to destroy OLPC, one can only imagine how much more damage they would do if they could find a way to control the ebook world for their coffers.</p>
<p>At Microsoft, Freedom is the enemy, so when the Big Bad Wolf goes to another neighborhood, I think it has to be good for all of us (except, of course, the people in the target neighborhood).</p>
<p>As for competition, that should come from us:  Everybody who is working toward better solutions for ebooks.  We should come up with better solutions.  We may not have Microsoft&#8217;s money, but we (the citizens of the internet) have more people with more free time than all their employees combined.  This is an opportunity to create something good while Big Brother Bill is otherwise engaged.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 20:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone here at teleread used either service?  I can count on one hand -- without using all my fingers there (and yes, I only have 5!) -- the number of times I&#039;ve used Google&#039;s book search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone here at teleread used either service?  I can count on one hand &#8212; without using all my fingers there (and yes, I only have 5!) &#8212; the number of times I&#8217;ve used Google&#8217;s book search.</p>
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