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	<title>Comments on: Lesson for Kindle fans and other e-bookers? &#8216;What if Apple stopped issuing DRM keys?&#8217; Same danger?</title>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this happen to me: Anybody remember emBidd? Since then I&#039;ve stopped buying DRM-books from eReader (or whatever Fictionwise will call it; I stopped when it was either still Palm or eReader&#039;s property) and don&#039;t buy &quot;secure Mobipocket&quot; from Fictionwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this happen to me: Anybody remember emBidd? Since then I&#8217;ve stopped buying DRM-books from eReader (or whatever Fictionwise will call it; I stopped when it was either still Palm or eReader&#8217;s property) and don&#8217;t buy &#8220;secure Mobipocket&#8221; from Fictionwise.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Cerebus. One thing to keep in mind is that Apple has a device limit. So if you want to go to switch in new devices, what happens if the DRM server is gone or kaput? Be great if you can enlighten us. Thanks. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Cerebus. One thing to keep in mind is that Apple has a device limit. So if you want to go to switch in new devices, what happens if the DRM server is gone or kaput? Be great if you can enlighten us. Thanks. David</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Udsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Udsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive said it before add drm and it&#039;s no longer a purchase but a leasing agreement. In principle it might be that the agreement cant be terminated but in practice well...

A lot of it comes down to people trying to frame new stuff into a old framework where it just dont fit, you cant trade ebooks the way you trade books and the same goes for music. Simply because the legel framework is&#039;t the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive said it before add drm and it&#8217;s no longer a purchase but a leasing agreement. In principle it might be that the agreement cant be terminated but in practice well&#8230;</p>
<p>A lot of it comes down to people trying to frame new stuff into a old framework where it just dont fit, you cant trade ebooks the way you trade books and the same goes for music. Simply because the legel framework is&#8217;t the same.</p>
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		<title>By: FrancisT</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrancisT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you can of course take your Kindle books and run them through a Crippleware remover such as the Mobidedrm scripts available at various places on Teh Intertubes. That way you can also transfer them from your Kindle to whatever ebook reader you choose next. If I had a Kindle (which I don&#039;t) and I&#039;d bought a lot of kindle books I&#039;d be storing uncrippled versions on a backup storage medium or two just in case.

(And yes doing this may violate licensing terms, the DMCA and possibly other intellectual property regulations)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you can of course take your Kindle books and run them through a Crippleware remover such as the Mobidedrm scripts available at various places on Teh Intertubes. That way you can also transfer them from your Kindle to whatever ebook reader you choose next. If I had a Kindle (which I don&#8217;t) and I&#8217;d bought a lot of kindle books I&#8217;d be storing uncrippled versions on a backup storage medium or two just in case.</p>
<p>(And yes doing this may violate licensing terms, the DMCA and possibly other intellectual property regulations)</p>
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		<title>By: Cerebus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cerebus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a fundamental difference between Apple&#039;s DRM model and Microsoft&#039;s and Yahoo&#039;s.  MS and Y! required you to periodically return to their servers to re-authorize; Apple gives you the key permanently.  In addition, Apple allows you to burn purchased music to disc, something that was rather more restricted with other services.  So Apple owners have an out--burn to disc, and re-rip as MP3.
 
-- C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a fundamental difference between Apple&#8217;s DRM model and Microsoft&#8217;s and Yahoo&#8217;s.  MS and Y! required you to periodically return to their servers to re-authorize; Apple gives you the key permanently.  In addition, Apple allows you to burn purchased music to disc, something that was rather more restricted with other services.  So Apple owners have an out&#8211;burn to disc, and re-rip as MP3.</p>
<p>&#8211; C</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Adin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Adin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only another reason why DRM is not good but another reason why the Sony -- with all its &quot;inconveniences&quot; vis-a-vis the Kindle -- is a better choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only another reason why DRM is not good but another reason why the Sony &#8212; with all its &#8220;inconveniences&#8221; vis-a-vis the Kindle &#8212; is a better choice.</p>
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