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	<title>Comments on: E-book popularity surge, as shown by Amazon&#8217;s 11-to-13-week back orders: Oprah Effect?</title>
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		<title>By: rjh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon are showing amazing incompetence at marketing their own product (they will be unable to sell any Kindles to willing customers for 3 months - and over the holiday season when people  want to get into reading! And not for the first time.) 

They really don&#039;t seem to have any definite plan for this product, they are just making it up as they go. It shows in the original design, (look for Philippe Starck&#039;s critique of the Kindle design)  and it shows in comments like Jeff Bezos&#039; recent: &quot;Perhaps we’ll create better user interface...&quot;. Perhaps, if we feel like it. Instead of that reply, he should have been soliciting more feedback from what seems to be a legitimate user complaint. I didn&#039;t get a feeling from the somewhat appalling SmartMoney interview that he was withholding information deliberately, just that they really do not know what they are doing. 

If Amazon had a proper plan in place, they&#039;d know exactly when to refresh the product, and whether there is a 2.0 coming or not, any such plan would not tolerate a 3 month hiatus in sales.  

Anyway, the interesting link in the article above was about ebooks having a future on iTunes. Maybe, but do these publishers really think that if this takes off, Apple aren&#039;t going to want to re-negotiate the method by which sales are managed (ie, they&#039;ll move them into iTunes itself) and the percentage that Apple is going to get from each sale?

We&#039;re talking about items of similar or higher value than movie sales here - I doubt that if there is any significant volume, that Jobs will let things continue as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon are showing amazing incompetence at marketing their own product (they will be unable to sell any Kindles to willing customers for 3 months &#8211; and over the holiday season when people  want to get into reading! And not for the first time.) </p>
<p>They really don&#8217;t seem to have any definite plan for this product, they are just making it up as they go. It shows in the original design, (look for Philippe Starck&#8217;s critique of the Kindle design)  and it shows in comments like Jeff Bezos&#8217; recent: &#8220;Perhaps we’ll create better user interface&#8230;&#8221;. Perhaps, if we feel like it. Instead of that reply, he should have been soliciting more feedback from what seems to be a legitimate user complaint. I didn&#8217;t get a feeling from the somewhat appalling SmartMoney interview that he was withholding information deliberately, just that they really do not know what they are doing. </p>
<p>If Amazon had a proper plan in place, they&#8217;d know exactly when to refresh the product, and whether there is a 2.0 coming or not, any such plan would not tolerate a 3 month hiatus in sales.  </p>
<p>Anyway, the interesting link in the article above was about ebooks having a future on iTunes. Maybe, but do these publishers really think that if this takes off, Apple aren&#8217;t going to want to re-negotiate the method by which sales are managed (ie, they&#8217;ll move them into iTunes itself) and the percentage that Apple is going to get from each sale?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about items of similar or higher value than movie sales here &#8211; I doubt that if there is any significant volume, that Jobs will let things continue as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not version 2 (which is so far, only an officially denied rumour from one web site), but your niece could still get a refurbished Kindle in time for this Christmas, direct from Amazon, with the full warranty:

http://www.tinyurl.com/RefurbKindle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not version 2 (which is so far, only an officially denied rumour from one web site), but your niece could still get a refurbished Kindle in time for this Christmas, direct from Amazon, with the full warranty:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tinyurl.com/RefurbKindle" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyurl.com/RefurbKindle</a></p>
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		<title>By: jmurphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmurphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t doubt at all that Bezos/Amazon has plans for a follow up.

I doubt that the rumour mongering on this site is useful. It may even be accurate, perhaps, but at this point all you are doing is repeating internet rumours. 

Hardly a fine example of original reportage, or the vaunted Teleread &quot;accuracy, accuracy, accuracy&quot;. 

There are plenty of gadget sites on the &#039;net that do a good job of gadget reporting but we expect more from Teleread, not more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt at all that Bezos/Amazon has plans for a follow up.</p>
<p>I doubt that the rumour mongering on this site is useful. It may even be accurate, perhaps, but at this point all you are doing is repeating internet rumours. </p>
<p>Hardly a fine example of original reportage, or the vaunted Teleread &#8220;accuracy, accuracy, accuracy&#8221;. </p>
<p>There are plenty of gadget sites on the &#8216;net that do a good job of gadget reporting but we expect more from Teleread, not more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, JM, but it&#039;s rather unlikely that Amazon would &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; follow up the successful Kindle with the Kindle 2, and beyond that I find the prototype in the picture to be in character for Amazon. 

Also, let&#039;s remember the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Osborne effect&lt;/a&gt;. Amazon may well have lied to preserve sales of the original Kindle, which would suffer if people knew about a forthcoming model---the very thing that happened when mere news of the forthcoming Osborne 2 sank the Osborne 1. 

As for the Kindle 2 not making its appearance this year, as TechCrunch predicted some months ago, well, it can&#039;t prevent Amazon from changing its mind.

Bottom line: I find TechCrunch&#039;s current report to be more credible than Ars&#039;s writeup even though I think highly of the latter site. Feel welcome to continue to disagree with me on this one.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JM, but it&#8217;s rather unlikely that Amazon would <em>not</em> follow up the successful Kindle with the Kindle 2, and beyond that I find the prototype in the picture to be in character for Amazon. </p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s remember the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect" rel="nofollow">Osborne effect</a>. Amazon may well have lied to preserve sales of the original Kindle, which would suffer if people knew about a forthcoming model&#8212;the very thing that happened when mere news of the forthcoming Osborne 2 sank the Osborne 1. </p>
<p>As for the Kindle 2 not making its appearance this year, as TechCrunch predicted some months ago, well, it can&#8217;t prevent Amazon from changing its mind.</p>
<p>Bottom line: I find TechCrunch&#8217;s current report to be more credible than Ars&#8217;s writeup even though I think highly of the latter site. Feel welcome to continue to disagree with me on this one.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: jmurphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmurphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ars says &quot;the long-rumored Kindle 2.0 is still... well, rumored.&quot;

It hasn&#039;t been announced yet, in fact Amazon denies it exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ars says &#8220;the long-rumored Kindle 2.0 is still&#8230; well, rumored.&#8221;</p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t been announced yet, in fact Amazon denies it exists.</p>
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