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	<title>Comments on: Cookbook on the Kindle &#8211; the concept doesn&#8217;t work</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Brookes</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/12/cookbook-on-the-kindle-the-concept-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1021111</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Brookes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with this post; I think this cookbook is well done and very useful. I&#039;m planning to highlight recipes and then open the My Clippings.txt file to print them when necessary. I&#039;m not sure that will work well but I don&#039;t see why it wouldn&#039;t. Definitely not a failure of the e-book medium in my opinion, just useful in a different way. Plus, this is a basic, how-to-cook type cookbook that many people may want to read in large chunks before actually attempting the recipes. Why not do that at a coffee shop on a Kindle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with this post; I think this cookbook is well done and very useful. I&#8217;m planning to highlight recipes and then open the My Clippings.txt file to print them when necessary. I&#8217;m not sure that will work well but I don&#8217;t see why it wouldn&#8217;t. Definitely not a failure of the e-book medium in my opinion, just useful in a different way. Plus, this is a basic, how-to-cook type cookbook that many people may want to read in large chunks before actually attempting the recipes. Why not do that at a coffee shop on a Kindle?</p>
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		<title>By: Garson O'Toole</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/12/cookbook-on-the-kindle-the-concept-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1020921</link>
		<dc:creator>Garson O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Biba mentions “folding down a page so that you can compare ingredients of two recipes side by side.” This problem can be ameliorated with larger screens and with multiple screens. If you had several Kindles then you could place them side by side for comparison of different recipes. This tactic will be easier to afford when the price of e-book readers falls substantially.

However, the “kitchen of the future” could provide even better support for chefs by supplementing ebook readers with wall screens and projections. The IEEE Spectrum has a collection of pictures that depict &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/6999&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a variety of projection systems and interaction styles&lt;/A&gt;. For example the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/SURFACE/Default.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Microsoft Surface&lt;/A&gt; research might yield a system that would be useful in the kitchen.

An ebook screen is, in a sense, a narrow portal to information and sometimes a capacious portal is superior. When portability is not needed a large screen can be deployed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Biba mentions “folding down a page so that you can compare ingredients of two recipes side by side.” This problem can be ameliorated with larger screens and with multiple screens. If you had several Kindles then you could place them side by side for comparison of different recipes. This tactic will be easier to afford when the price of e-book readers falls substantially.</p>
<p>However, the “kitchen of the future” could provide even better support for chefs by supplementing ebook readers with wall screens and projections. The IEEE Spectrum has a collection of pictures that depict <a HREF="http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/6999" rel="nofollow">a variety of projection systems and interaction styles</a>. For example the <a HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/SURFACE/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Surface</a> research might yield a system that would be useful in the kitchen.</p>
<p>An ebook screen is, in a sense, a narrow portal to information and sometimes a capacious portal is superior. When portability is not needed a large screen can be deployed.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/12/cookbook-on-the-kindle-the-concept-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1020896</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I publish e-books in pdf, and they work great. I no longer have to have 30 feet of cookbooks in my kitchen ;-)

I considered trying to put one out on kindle, but I thought the formatting would be a nightmare, and the small screen won&#039;t allow you to see ingredients and instructions on one page. 

And you bring up another good point - it would require a lot of anchor tagging to make it user friendly. Bummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I publish e-books in pdf, and they work great. I no longer have to have 30 feet of cookbooks in my kitchen <img src='http://www.teleread.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I considered trying to put one out on kindle, but I thought the formatting would be a nightmare, and the small screen won&#8217;t allow you to see ingredients and instructions on one page. </p>
<p>And you bring up another good point &#8211; it would require a lot of anchor tagging to make it user friendly. Bummer.</p>
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		<title>By: tuxgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tuxgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say the main thing I would like ebook versions of cookbooks for would be to have with me when I go to the grocery store.  I don&#039;t know about everyone else&#039;s cookbooks, but mine don&#039;t exactly stay clean when i&#039;m cooking.  I wouldn&#039;t want my kindle getting dirty (iphone seems easier to clean imho), but it is really nice to have a cookbook or set of recipes available while i&#039;m at the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say the main thing I would like ebook versions of cookbooks for would be to have with me when I go to the grocery store.  I don&#8217;t know about everyone else&#8217;s cookbooks, but mine don&#8217;t exactly stay clean when i&#8217;m cooking.  I wouldn&#8217;t want my kindle getting dirty (iphone seems easier to clean imho), but it is really nice to have a cookbook or set of recipes available while i&#8217;m at the store.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Udsen</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/12/cookbook-on-the-kindle-the-concept-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1020860</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Udsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recipe websites are generating a pretty decent amount of trafic and usage, so even if the kindle dont work it&#039;s not saying that e-cookbooks are doomed. it just sugest that the kindle might have failed at making the 1:1 transition and dont give the same added benefits as the web might.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recipe websites are generating a pretty decent amount of trafic and usage, so even if the kindle dont work it&#8217;s not saying that e-cookbooks are doomed. it just sugest that the kindle might have failed at making the 1:1 transition and dont give the same added benefits as the web might.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/12/cookbook-on-the-kindle-the-concept-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1020857</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul I totally disagree. Especially with &quot;Cook&#039;s Illustrated&quot; where the cooking methods are the focus (as opposed to lists of recipes or full color food porn), I think the ebook approach is awesome. I&#039;d have liked to see a hyperlinked index included, so you could search for recipes, but the TOC is pretty darned good with the kindlized &quot;Cook&#039;s Illustrated&quot; -- And I love that I can figure out what it is I need help with, set my iphone on the kitchen counter, and follow the instructions. 

My big dream (well, one of many) would be a combo searchable recipe database that could link up to your in stock pantry AND keep track of what you have on hand. You take it to the store with you and scan the items as you buy -- your magic recipe iphone app will tell you what you can prepare with what you have, as well as what you need to get from store. Plus all in color. So, Liza needs to get to work on that pronto!!
In the meantime I think she did a fabulous job with the &quot;Cook&#039;s Illustrated&quot; Kindle book, and I&#039;m really enjoying using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul I totally disagree. Especially with &#8220;Cook&#8217;s Illustrated&#8221; where the cooking methods are the focus (as opposed to lists of recipes or full color food porn), I think the ebook approach is awesome. I&#8217;d have liked to see a hyperlinked index included, so you could search for recipes, but the TOC is pretty darned good with the kindlized &#8220;Cook&#8217;s Illustrated&#8221; &#8212; And I love that I can figure out what it is I need help with, set my iphone on the kitchen counter, and follow the instructions. </p>
<p>My big dream (well, one of many) would be a combo searchable recipe database that could link up to your in stock pantry AND keep track of what you have on hand. You take it to the store with you and scan the items as you buy &#8212; your magic recipe iphone app will tell you what you can prepare with what you have, as well as what you need to get from store. Plus all in color. So, Liza needs to get to work on that pronto!!<br />
In the meantime I think she did a fabulous job with the &#8220;Cook&#8217;s Illustrated&#8221; Kindle book, and I&#8217;m really enjoying using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie Clarken</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/12/cookbook-on-the-kindle-the-concept-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-1020855</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie Clarken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t write off the ebook format for recipe books altogether. Certainly on the current generation of e-ink devices it doesn&#039;t work but with a multi-touch touch-screen interface like the iPhone, I think it could be quite different. Imagine being able to flick through pages as fast as you can flick through album cover art on the iPhone/iPod Touch and then drag pages around the screen like windows on a computer. Such a device is certainly years away but I&#039;m optimistic that it can be pulled-off.

I&#039;m more concerned that we need a waterproof ebook reader because, given the number of stains on my paper recipe books, an electronic reader wouldn&#039;t last long in the kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t write off the ebook format for recipe books altogether. Certainly on the current generation of e-ink devices it doesn&#8217;t work but with a multi-touch touch-screen interface like the iPhone, I think it could be quite different. Imagine being able to flick through pages as fast as you can flick through album cover art on the iPhone/iPod Touch and then drag pages around the screen like windows on a computer. Such a device is certainly years away but I&#8217;m optimistic that it can be pulled-off.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more concerned that we need a waterproof ebook reader because, given the number of stains on my paper recipe books, an electronic reader wouldn&#8217;t last long in the kitchen.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you had a set of recipes you wanted to bring with you to your brother&#039;s house for christmas, you could bring them on the kindle, might work. 

Otherwise I don&#039;t see how any ebook on the readers, where you&#039;d need to flip around, have two pages readily available at the same time, or have nice readable diagrams, would work. They&#039;re too small, color impaired, and way too slow. Basically, I think they&#039;re good for reading novels - begin at page one and go through page by page to the end. They&#039;re too slow for anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you had a set of recipes you wanted to bring with you to your brother&#8217;s house for christmas, you could bring them on the kindle, might work. </p>
<p>Otherwise I don&#8217;t see how any ebook on the readers, where you&#8217;d need to flip around, have two pages readily available at the same time, or have nice readable diagrams, would work. They&#8217;re too small, color impaired, and way too slow. Basically, I think they&#8217;re good for reading novels &#8211; begin at page one and go through page by page to the end. They&#8217;re too slow for anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cookbooks aren&#039;t really books, y&#039;know...
They&#039;re printed databases.
That&#039;s why the optimum cookbook is a box full of index card.
For this kind of application you need nulti-tasking and multiple windows or at least hot-keying between documents; do-able but so niche its more cost effective to use a kitchen PC instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cookbooks aren&#8217;t really books, y&#8217;know&#8230;<br />
They&#8217;re printed databases.<br />
That&#8217;s why the optimum cookbook is a box full of index card.<br />
For this kind of application you need nulti-tasking and multiple windows or at least hot-keying between documents; do-able but so niche its more cost effective to use a kitchen PC instead.</p>
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