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	<title>Comments on: “I’m tired of hearing about Kindle!  Kindle Kindle Kindle!”</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/04/10/%e2%80%9ci%e2%80%99m-tired-of-hearing-about-kindle-kindle-kindle-kindle%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1036155</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ficbot: Actually, I was only kidding with you!  I was referring to a few e-mails I received after my site redesign went up, which duly pointed out that Yankee-centric design point that I missed.  Your comment made me think of those e-mails.  I do try to think globally, but it is so easy to miss aspects that simply don&#039;t occur to you, or that you don&#039;t realize are an issue in other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ficbot: Actually, I was only kidding with you!  I was referring to a few e-mails I received after my site redesign went up, which duly pointed out that Yankee-centric design point that I missed.  Your comment made me think of those e-mails.  I do try to think globally, but it is so easy to miss aspects that simply don&#8217;t occur to you, or that you don&#8217;t realize are an issue in other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: ficbot</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/04/10/%e2%80%9ci%e2%80%99m-tired-of-hearing-about-kindle-kindle-kindle-kindle%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1036029</link>
		<dc:creator>ficbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never posted to your website, Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never posted to your website, Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also sick to death of hearing of the kindle as if it&#039;s the only reader out there. I was wondering one day why there are billions of kindle blogs and only one cybook blog that I know of - bookeen&#039;s. And I realized that all the blogs have ads to buy kindle books from amazon.com and they get money if anyone clicks their ads and buys. And it probably doesn&#039;t hurt that the kindle is one of Oprah&#039;s &quot;favorite things&quot;. I don&#039;t even watch her show and I know it. So that explains it - money and popularity. 

It&#039;s a good thing if you happen to be amazon.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also sick to death of hearing of the kindle as if it&#8217;s the only reader out there. I was wondering one day why there are billions of kindle blogs and only one cybook blog that I know of &#8211; bookeen&#8217;s. And I realized that all the blogs have ads to buy kindle books from amazon.com and they get money if anyone clicks their ads and buys. And it probably doesn&#8217;t hurt that the kindle is one of Oprah&#8217;s &#8220;favorite things&#8221;. I don&#8217;t even watch her show and I know it. So that explains it &#8211; money and popularity. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing if you happen to be amazon.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriah Jovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moriah Jovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Amazon would sell their ebooks instead of leasing them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Amazon would sell their ebooks instead of leasing them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enthusiastically endorse the Kindle2 even though I don&#039;t think it is the be all and end all product for e-books either.  I happen to think the reading experience, which takes about 30 minutes to get used to, just fine for books, newspapers, and magazines.


Yes, there will be a new next thing and, eventually the market will shake itself out. Did you advocate waiting on the sidelines when the VHS Beta wars were going on...how about now, are you waiting for the next TV new thing to pop, before you buy it..What you claim to be a technological phenomena is not exclusive to e-books.

I also enjoy sitting down in the morning with the traditional newspaper format so I am not exclusive in my reading devices.

Yes, you are correct that sometimes you may not get connection, but the integration of reader, whispernet, and shopping cart makes for a powerful combination when, say you are on a train and say...boy I would like to see the New Yorker...literally, in 30 seconds, you are reading the current edition...

That is what I like about the Kindle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enthusiastically endorse the Kindle2 even though I don&#8217;t think it is the be all and end all product for e-books either.  I happen to think the reading experience, which takes about 30 minutes to get used to, just fine for books, newspapers, and magazines.</p>
<p>Yes, there will be a new next thing and, eventually the market will shake itself out. Did you advocate waiting on the sidelines when the VHS Beta wars were going on&#8230;how about now, are you waiting for the next TV new thing to pop, before you buy it..What you claim to be a technological phenomena is not exclusive to e-books.</p>
<p>I also enjoy sitting down in the morning with the traditional newspaper format so I am not exclusive in my reading devices.</p>
<p>Yes, you are correct that sometimes you may not get connection, but the integration of reader, whispernet, and shopping cart makes for a powerful combination when, say you are on a train and say&#8230;boy I would like to see the New Yorker&#8230;literally, in 30 seconds, you are reading the current edition&#8230;</p>
<p>That is what I like about the Kindle.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Falbe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Falbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article Steve. I also find the relentless Kindle PR machine tiresome as it spoonfeeds media outlets and shapes digital reading in its image. In the mainstream media like TV and newspapers you rarely see an article about ebooks and the various ways of reading them. It&#039;s always about the Kindle. I think Kindle is an OK product, although I chose to buy a different ebook reader. I actually wish that Amazon would make its ebooks available in multiple formats so any ebook reader could buy them. I&#039;ve been buying books at Amazon for years, but now can&#039;t buy ebooks because I was not interested in their device. I hope with digital reading that Amazon quits its totalitarian approach and goes back to being what made it great: having the Earth&#039;s largest selection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article Steve. I also find the relentless Kindle PR machine tiresome as it spoonfeeds media outlets and shapes digital reading in its image. In the mainstream media like TV and newspapers you rarely see an article about ebooks and the various ways of reading them. It&#8217;s always about the Kindle. I think Kindle is an OK product, although I chose to buy a different ebook reader. I actually wish that Amazon would make its ebooks available in multiple formats so any ebook reader could buy them. I&#8217;ve been buying books at Amazon for years, but now can&#8217;t buy ebooks because I was not interested in their device. I hope with digital reading that Amazon quits its totalitarian approach and goes back to being what made it great: having the Earth&#8217;s largest selection.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say... are you one of the guys who jumped me when my new website design used the American-centric phrase &quot;411&quot; for my About e-books page?...

...but you&#039;re right, of course: Amazon isn&#039;t the only entity that is pointedly not taking advantage of a truly global market potential.  Most American companies could be doing much, much better.

(By the way: I had that &quot;411&quot; thing fixed within 20 minutes of hearing about it!  Let&#039;s hear it for the speed of the web!)

I personally don&#039;t think Apple will give us THE dedicated e-book reader in a touch-screen tablet, but I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing them try!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say&#8230; are you one of the guys who jumped me when my new website design used the American-centric phrase &#8220;411&#8243; for my About e-books page?&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but you&#8217;re right, of course: Amazon isn&#8217;t the only entity that is pointedly not taking advantage of a truly global market potential.  Most American companies could be doing much, much better.</p>
<p>(By the way: I had that &#8220;411&#8243; thing fixed within 20 minutes of hearing about it!  Let&#8217;s hear it for the speed of the web!)</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t think Apple will give us THE dedicated e-book reader in a touch-screen tablet, but I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing them try!</p>
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		<title>By: ficbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ficbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how Amazon can be (or can be thought of as) the &#039;only player in the game&#039; when their product is US-only. It is a big world out there on the WORLD wide web, and it seems like the Americans are the only ones who often fail to remember this! I can&#039;t even count the times I have emailed a website vendor who clearly had not thought about their international customers or potential customers at all---to their own detriment, because people outside the USA actually wanted to buy their stuff! It is a great disappointment to me and many other tech-savvy Canadians that Amazon is taking such a perceived dominance int he ebook game when they have refused to make their product available outside the USA and in doing so are shutting out a good number of potential customers who want to use products like this.

Personally, I think the &#039;winner&#039;---if there is to be one---will be Apple, should they wise up to the trends and release an ebook-sized tablet with decent battery life and integration with the iTunes app store. They won&#039;t call it an ebook reader, but I bet it will effectively be just that---especially if they use the iPod Touch OS and it can run eReader and Stanza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how Amazon can be (or can be thought of as) the &#8216;only player in the game&#8217; when their product is US-only. It is a big world out there on the WORLD wide web, and it seems like the Americans are the only ones who often fail to remember this! I can&#8217;t even count the times I have emailed a website vendor who clearly had not thought about their international customers or potential customers at all&#8212;to their own detriment, because people outside the USA actually wanted to buy their stuff! It is a great disappointment to me and many other tech-savvy Canadians that Amazon is taking such a perceived dominance int he ebook game when they have refused to make their product available outside the USA and in doing so are shutting out a good number of potential customers who want to use products like this.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the &#8216;winner&#8217;&#8212;if there is to be one&#8212;will be Apple, should they wise up to the trends and release an ebook-sized tablet with decent battery life and integration with the iTunes app store. They won&#8217;t call it an ebook reader, but I bet it will effectively be just that&#8212;especially if they use the iPod Touch OS and it can run eReader and Stanza.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/04/10/%e2%80%9ci%e2%80%99m-tired-of-hearing-about-kindle-kindle-kindle-kindle%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-1035489</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob: Fortunately, we are at a time in history when independents (like us), if so inclined, can become a viable part of the market whether the monopoly player likes it or not... in other words, at this point there are far too many monkeys for the gorilla to crush, no matter how hard it may try. 

This is yet another reason to keep in mind that Amazon is not the only player in this game, so it is ultimately counter-productive to tailor all of our products to the Kindle.  Indies and even major publishers should be setting an example by tailoring our products to open-source markets, pressuring Amazon to follow suit, and encouraging customers to vote with their wallets. 
 
If customers duly respond to open-source products and curtail their buying of proprietary material and/or DRM&#039;d material, Amazon can roar and thump its chest all it wants, but will have to follow to stay in the game... or make itself even better for customers, to keep market share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: Fortunately, we are at a time in history when independents (like us), if so inclined, can become a viable part of the market whether the monopoly player likes it or not&#8230; in other words, at this point there are far too many monkeys for the gorilla to crush, no matter how hard it may try. </p>
<p>This is yet another reason to keep in mind that Amazon is not the only player in this game, so it is ultimately counter-productive to tailor all of our products to the Kindle.  Indies and even major publishers should be setting an example by tailoring our products to open-source markets, pressuring Amazon to follow suit, and encouraging customers to vote with their wallets. </p>
<p>If customers duly respond to open-source products and curtail their buying of proprietary material and/or DRM&#8217;d material, Amazon can roar and thump its chest all it wants, but will have to follow to stay in the game&#8230; or make itself even better for customers, to keep market share.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: We&#039;re on the same page. When I do write about the Kindle, it&#039;s certainly from your perspective.

Rob: Thanks. I&#039;ve addressed that issue in the past. One of my biggest reasons for open standards is to avoid the kind of situation you describe. Here&#039;s to a bigger e-book pie for everyone, not just Amazon! A monopoly situation would be good for Amazon&#039;s market share, but still would mean lower earnings in the long run because of the interference with the industry&#039;s growth. People don&#039;t want to entrust their libraries to a giant monopoly that, as we&#039;ve seen in Ian&#039;s case, can yank books away from them at any time--even if the alleged abuses don&#039;t involve returned &lt;em&gt;books&lt;/em&gt;. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: We&#8217;re on the same page. When I do write about the Kindle, it&#8217;s certainly from your perspective.</p>
<p>Rob: Thanks. I&#8217;ve addressed that issue in the past. One of my biggest reasons for open standards is to avoid the kind of situation you describe. Here&#8217;s to a bigger e-book pie for everyone, not just Amazon! A monopoly situation would be good for Amazon&#8217;s market share, but still would mean lower earnings in the long run because of the interference with the industry&#8217;s growth. People don&#8217;t want to entrust their libraries to a giant monopoly that, as we&#8217;ve seen in Ian&#8217;s case, can yank books away from them at any time&#8211;even if the alleged abuses don&#8217;t involve returned <em>books</em>. David</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece, Publisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece, Publisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kindle is a nice device--I want one. One thing you hint at, but don&#039;t really address, though, is what happens if one player (the gorilla) does become the dominant player, crushing the monkeys and baboons. In that case, we have order but a monopoly in the supply chain is unlikely to be happy news for authors, publisher, or readers.

I&#039;m a big believer in competition--at all levels. I wish Amazon great luck--as long as other people continue having luck as well.

Rob Preece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kindle is a nice device&#8211;I want one. One thing you hint at, but don&#8217;t really address, though, is what happens if one player (the gorilla) does become the dominant player, crushing the monkeys and baboons. In that case, we have order but a monopoly in the supply chain is unlikely to be happy news for authors, publisher, or readers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big believer in competition&#8211;at all levels. I wish Amazon great luck&#8211;as long as other people continue having luck as well.</p>
<p>Rob Preece</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, David: I see no reason not to try to push Amazon in a more open-friendly direction by adding formats like ePub, removing DRM, and (my personal favorite) opening up their content to non-Kindle/iPhone owners.  As I tried to relate, I have nothing against the Kindle.  I am mainly cautioning against neglecting the rest of the market for the sake of one nice-but-not-perfect device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, David: I see no reason not to try to push Amazon in a more open-friendly direction by adding formats like ePub, removing DRM, and (my personal favorite) opening up their content to non-Kindle/iPhone owners.  As I tried to relate, I have nothing against the Kindle.  I am mainly cautioning against neglecting the rest of the market for the sake of one nice-but-not-perfect device.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Steve! I hate it when writers unwittingly encourage the public to confuse &quot;Kindle&quot; with e-books in general. In fact, I made a similar point about a Slate editor&#039;s piece. Right with you!

That said, the Kindle is on people&#039;s minds now, and as commentators, we can&#039;t ignore this. Rather we should point out the risks of readers, writers and publishers relying so heavily on one company and one format. We should nudge Amazon toward adoption of the nonproprietary e-Pub format and the replacement of proprietary DRM with either no-DRM or social DRM. I&#039;d also like to see Kindle capabilities such as WhisperSync replicated in other brands in a compatible way. In fact, see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.org/2009/04/10/keeping-your-place-in-the-book-adobes-bill-mccoy-favors-open-syncing-to-make-this-easier/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;latest installment in my little campaign for open syncing&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Steve! I hate it when writers unwittingly encourage the public to confuse &#8220;Kindle&#8221; with e-books in general. In fact, I made a similar point about a Slate editor&#8217;s piece. Right with you!</p>
<p>That said, the Kindle is on people&#8217;s minds now, and as commentators, we can&#8217;t ignore this. Rather we should point out the risks of readers, writers and publishers relying so heavily on one company and one format. We should nudge Amazon toward adoption of the nonproprietary e-Pub format and the replacement of proprietary DRM with either no-DRM or social DRM. I&#8217;d also like to see Kindle capabilities such as WhisperSync replicated in other brands in a compatible way. In fact, see the <a href="http://www.teleread.org/2009/04/10/keeping-your-place-in-the-book-adobes-bill-mccoy-favors-open-syncing-to-make-this-easier/" rel="nofollow">latest installment in my little campaign for open syncing</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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