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		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/05/12/harlan-ellison-will-cut-off-your-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-1149226</link>
		<dc:creator>website design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlan Ellison is alive, well, and absolutely right to do what he does re: piracy. 
The only reason people defend &quot;file sharing&quot; films, books, games, music, etc., is because it is easier than buying things &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; it has the illusion of anonymity. I very much doubt that the bulk of folks who copy things illegally online would have the stones to go into a Streetside Records shop or a Barnes &amp; Noble, and take a five-finger discount. Outside of the obvious risk, it is something &lt;i&gt;tactile&lt;/i&gt;, something you hold in your hand, and, then, it becomes a real thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlan Ellison is alive, well, and absolutely right to do what he does re: piracy.<br />
The only reason people defend &#8220;file sharing&#8221; films, books, games, music, etc., is because it is easier than buying things <i>and</i> it has the illusion of anonymity. I very much doubt that the bulk of folks who copy things illegally online would have the stones to go into a Streetside Records shop or a Barnes &amp; Noble, and take a five-finger discount. Outside of the obvious risk, it is something <i>tactile</i>, something you hold in your hand, and, then, it becomes a real thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/05/12/harlan-ellison-will-cut-off-your-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-1147799</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlan Ellison is still alive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlan Ellison is still alive?</p>
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		<title>By: Batarang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batarang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think the publishing industries (music, books, movies) need to come up with a torrent-based subscription model.  $9.99/month for, as O&#039;Reilly put it, an &quot;all-you-can-eat&quot; buffet of media.  

$9.99/book on Amazon ain&#039;t the answer; $1.29 mp3s in the iStore can&#039;t compete with free either.  If they&#039;re really intent on individual items to sell, I&#039;ll start buying high-quality ebooks (text w/audio) and albums (wavs w/complete cover art-liner notes) at around $4.99 a piece.  If the customers are also the backbone of your distribution system, this seems fair when you&#039;re provided with no physical artifact and supply is limitless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think the publishing industries (music, books, movies) need to come up with a torrent-based subscription model.  $9.99/month for, as O&#8217;Reilly put it, an &#8220;all-you-can-eat&#8221; buffet of media.  </p>
<p>$9.99/book on Amazon ain&#8217;t the answer; $1.29 mp3s in the iStore can&#8217;t compete with free either.  If they&#8217;re really intent on individual items to sell, I&#8217;ll start buying high-quality ebooks (text w/audio) and albums (wavs w/complete cover art-liner notes) at around $4.99 a piece.  If the customers are also the backbone of your distribution system, this seems fair when you&#8217;re provided with no physical artifact and supply is limitless.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with David that obscurity is far worse for a writer than piracy.

But speaking purely as a consumer, Harlan Ellison is making himself look pretty bad by going after pirates who are trying to make his work more available to the e-reading public. 

If Harlan would just release his books as ebooks along with the print edition, he wouldn&#039;t have problems with piracy. Heck, he could even charge for his ebooks a fair price and still come out ahead.

And like David said, going on these little anti-piracy crusades is just bad PR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with David that obscurity is far worse for a writer than piracy.</p>
<p>But speaking purely as a consumer, Harlan Ellison is making himself look pretty bad by going after pirates who are trying to make his work more available to the e-reading public. </p>
<p>If Harlan would just release his books as ebooks along with the print edition, he wouldn&#8217;t have problems with piracy. Heck, he could even charge for his ebooks a fair price and still come out ahead.</p>
<p>And like David said, going on these little anti-piracy crusades is just bad PR!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obscurity is far worse for a writer than piracy. 

Some publishers are losing a lot of credibility and racking up a lot of bad PR when they go on their anti-piracy and DRM crusades. I&#039;m not saying that it&#039;s not their right to do so, but usually they don&#039;t handle the PR part well and end up offending all the honest ebook purchases, as Wizards of the Coast recently did. I will never again purchase a WotC product after the way they conducted themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obscurity is far worse for a writer than piracy. </p>
<p>Some publishers are losing a lot of credibility and racking up a lot of bad PR when they go on their anti-piracy and DRM crusades. I&#8217;m not saying that it&#8217;s not their right to do so, but usually they don&#8217;t handle the PR part well and end up offending all the honest ebook purchases, as Wizards of the Coast recently did. I will never again purchase a WotC product after the way they conducted themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m sure Harlan is okay with how Cory decides to promote his own books.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sure Harlan, being Harlan, couldn&#039;t care less about Cory or anyone else, much less how they sell (or don&#039;t sell) their books.  

If he wants to go on a Holy War after pirates, he can be my guest.  He&#039;s got his fame, his celebrity, and his money... it&#039;s his time to waste.

@Michael: The only suggestion I&#039;d expect from epirates would be: &quot;Make &#039;em free, and we won&#039;t be stealing &#039;em.  Ar!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m sure Harlan is okay with how Cory decides to promote his own books.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Harlan, being Harlan, couldn&#8217;t care less about Cory or anyone else, much less how they sell (or don&#8217;t sell) their books.  </p>
<p>If he wants to go on a Holy War after pirates, he can be my guest.  He&#8217;s got his fame, his celebrity, and his money&#8230; it&#8217;s his time to waste.</p>
<p>@Michael: The only suggestion I&#8217;d expect from epirates would be: &#8220;Make &#8216;em free, and we won&#8217;t be stealing &#8216;em.  Ar!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Harlan is okay with how Cory decides to promote his own books. But maybe Harlan doesn&#039;t worry as much about obscurity as Cory does. As far as I&#039;m concerned, authors and publishers have to make decisions about what&#039;s right for them. Other people can offer advice, but the authors and publishers are involved. Certainly for me, offering eBooks for free would definitely make my business, selling eBooks, rough.

Rob Preece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Harlan is okay with how Cory decides to promote his own books. But maybe Harlan doesn&#8217;t worry as much about obscurity as Cory does. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, authors and publishers have to make decisions about what&#8217;s right for them. Other people can offer advice, but the authors and publishers are involved. Certainly for me, offering eBooks for free would definitely make my business, selling eBooks, rough.</p>
<p>Rob Preece</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pastore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pastore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just now seen your article! ... 
And your summary and comments are excellent, Chris. 

You wrote, about ebook and book piracy:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
It is flatly impossible to stamp out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To me, that is the heart of the problem. Publishers and authors are acting as if they can stop epiracy by forceful methods, such as DRM and lawsuits. 

It&#039;s wrong to pirate books and ebooks; but epiracy will not be eliminated by stricter laws and more aggressive lawsuits.

I agree with your solutions, including lowering ebook prices. 

It would be useful also, to try to gather some suggestions from the &quot;epirates&quot; themselves.

Michael Pastore
50 Benefits of Ebooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just now seen your article! &#8230;<br />
And your summary and comments are excellent, Chris. </p>
<p>You wrote, about ebook and book piracy:</p>
<blockquote><p>
It is flatly impossible to stamp out.</p></blockquote>
<p>To me, that is the heart of the problem. Publishers and authors are acting as if they can stop epiracy by forceful methods, such as DRM and lawsuits. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s wrong to pirate books and ebooks; but epiracy will not be eliminated by stricter laws and more aggressive lawsuits.</p>
<p>I agree with your solutions, including lowering ebook prices. </p>
<p>It would be useful also, to try to gather some suggestions from the &#8220;epirates&#8221; themselves.</p>
<p>Michael Pastore<br />
50 Benefits of Ebooks</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Michael:&lt;/b&gt; As you&#039;ve probably seen by now, at the same time Paul was covering someone&#039;s reaction to the piece, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.org/2009/05/12/e-book-piracy-keeping-pace-with-e-book-popularity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I was writing up the piece itself&lt;/a&gt;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Michael:</b> As you&#8217;ve probably seen by now, at the same time Paul was covering someone&#8217;s reaction to the piece, <a href="http://www.teleread.org/2009/05/12/e-book-piracy-keeping-pace-with-e-book-popularity/" rel="nofollow">I was writing up the piece itself</a>. <img src='http://www.teleread.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pastore</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/2009/05/12/harlan-ellison-will-cut-off-your-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-1056108</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Pastore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 13:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worthwhile to read the full story from the New York Times, here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/technology/internet/12digital.html

The story includes this paragraph:
&lt;blockquote&gt;John Wiley &amp; Sons, a textbook publisher that also issues the “Dummies” series, employs three full-time staff members to trawl for unauthorized copies. Gary M. Rinck, general counsel, said that in the last month, the company had sent notices on more than 5,000 titles — five times more than a year ago — asking various sites to take down digital versions of Wiley’s books.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Three full time persons&lt;/strong&gt; on the staff, just to find the pirated copies! ... And then, no doubt, a staff of specialized attorneys to send threatening letters. ... Big publishers can afford to do this; independent publishers and authors cannot.

Fighting real-world piracy on the high seas -- where pirate ships hijack tourist ships and freighters -- is difficult because the area where the pirates may strike is as large as the state of Texas. 

Fighting piracy of books and ebooks is an even greater challenge. I am against piracy and epiracy, but clearly we need a new approach to this problem.

Publishers and authors who are making piles of money are going ballistic about this problem. There&#039;s something zenlike and nice about Cory Doctorow&#039;s approach. Put your hand in Harlan Ellison&#039;s pocket and he will try to cut it off; put your hand in Cory&#039;s pocket and he will fill it with a free ebook copy of his latest book.

Michael Pastore
50 Benefits of Ebooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worthwhile to read the full story from the New York Times, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/technology/internet/12digital.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/technology/internet/12digital.html</a></p>
<p>The story includes this paragraph:</p>
<blockquote><p>John Wiley &amp; Sons, a textbook publisher that also issues the “Dummies” series, employs three full-time staff members to trawl for unauthorized copies. Gary M. Rinck, general counsel, said that in the last month, the company had sent notices on more than 5,000 titles — five times more than a year ago — asking various sites to take down digital versions of Wiley’s books.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Three full time persons</strong> on the staff, just to find the pirated copies! &#8230; And then, no doubt, a staff of specialized attorneys to send threatening letters. &#8230; Big publishers can afford to do this; independent publishers and authors cannot.</p>
<p>Fighting real-world piracy on the high seas &#8212; where pirate ships hijack tourist ships and freighters &#8212; is difficult because the area where the pirates may strike is as large as the state of Texas. </p>
<p>Fighting piracy of books and ebooks is an even greater challenge. I am against piracy and epiracy, but clearly we need a new approach to this problem.</p>
<p>Publishers and authors who are making piles of money are going ballistic about this problem. There&#8217;s something zenlike and nice about Cory Doctorow&#8217;s approach. Put your hand in Harlan Ellison&#8217;s pocket and he will try to cut it off; put your hand in Cory&#8217;s pocket and he will fill it with a free ebook copy of his latest book.</p>
<p>Michael Pastore<br />
50 Benefits of Ebooks</p>
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