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	<title>Comments on: Jamendo: A business model that works! (Maybe)</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/01/30/jamendo-a-business-model-that-works/#comment-899066</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to add that for part time musicians this is a great way to share music that they would normally only share with a few friends and never ask for money.  You potentially get to make some money.

One thing that I saw on the site, from my understanding,  your paypal account doesn't get a deposit until your balance is 100 Euros.  That can be quite a while if any.  They say it's due to the fees that are required by paypal for each transaction.

Right now, like everyone else has said, it is interesting and I will do my part to promote something like this.  I would say that the quality of music for the most part is above average.

I think to potentially make more money, Jamendo, will have to offer links to places like itunes where they can earn some commision.  Let's say I found some albums that resemble the beatles, but they aren't feeding my beatles fix, so I want to download a beatles song.  They could potentially make money from something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to add that for part time musicians this is a great way to share music that they would normally only share with a few friends and never ask for money.  You potentially get to make some money.</p>
<p>One thing that I saw on the site, from my understanding,  your paypal account doesn&#8217;t get a deposit until your balance is 100 Euros.  That can be quite a while if any.  They say it&#8217;s due to the fees that are required by paypal for each transaction.</p>
<p>Right now, like everyone else has said, it is interesting and I will do my part to promote something like this.  I would say that the quality of music for the most part is above average.</p>
<p>I think to potentially make more money, Jamendo, will have to offer links to places like itunes where they can earn some commision.  Let&#8217;s say I found some albums that resemble the beatles, but they aren&#8217;t feeding my beatles fix, so I want to download a beatles song.  They could potentially make money from something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nagle</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/01/30/jamendo-a-business-model-that-works/#comment-708918</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uffe, it's a cultural thing. Our culture doesn't yet think of tipping as an acceptable way to show appreciation of talent. By the way, in a week or two, I'm going to announce which Jamendo artists I'll be giving tips to. 

Also, I don't consider those stats to be anywhere near accurate. The home page now shows 6800 albums (including compilations by others) and 250,000 active members. That sounds about right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uffe, it&#8217;s a cultural thing. Our culture doesn&#8217;t yet think of tipping as an acceptable way to show appreciation of talent. By the way, in a week or two, I&#8217;m going to announce which Jamendo artists I&#8217;ll be giving tips to. </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t consider those stats to be anywhere near accurate. The home page now shows 6800 albums (including compilations by others) and 250,000 active members. That sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice analysis of the business. it's hard now to identify  what model is a good one. We are French too and we launched a platform (still in beta) targeting indies. It is called NoMajors (http://www.NoMajors.com).

We refused ads as a model because we do not believe in this source of income. In the same way, we did not want to charge artists on their sells and furthermore we allow them to create their own distribution model..

Online music business is a complex one and big players just crashed while trying to set their rules. Thus we chose to try to build the model on Nomajors with the artists..

Feel free to contact me to discuss the topic !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice analysis of the business. it&#8217;s hard now to identify  what model is a good one. We are French too and we launched a platform (still in beta) targeting indies. It is called NoMajors (http://www.NoMajors.com).</p>
<p>We refused ads as a model because we do not believe in this source of income. In the same way, we did not want to charge artists on their sells and furthermore we allow them to create their own distribution model..</p>
<p>Online music business is a complex one and big players just crashed while trying to set their rules. Thus we chose to try to build the model on Nomajors with the artists..</p>
<p>Feel free to contact me to discuss the topic !</p>
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		<title>By: Uffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote] "But the data that drew my attention is the number of donations people are making to individual artists. It’s not a lot so far, but Jamendo is on its way to creating a community that rewards great music without qualms."

I made a quick count on donations from october 2007 (http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=donorslist). The site had around 100 users donating approximately 1035€.

The site has around 1800 artists taking donations (http://www.jamendo.com/en/?artistswithdonate=1&#38;p=artists)

This means that by average one artist makes around 0,5€ a month from donations.

The point is: Unless the statistics I´ve used from Jamendo is incorrect, it is difficult to see that this is good business.

Indeed I think the business model itself is interesting and perhaps it has a lot of potentiel. But to say it works is quite a different story. And if we look at the facts, the number of donations has risen the last years, but it is really not an astonishing increase.

Well another interesting fact is that Jamendo has 337129 registered artists (sounds crazy but the site says so) and 205153 registered users (http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=stats). That's more artists than users. I cannot see how the income from adds based on this number of users supplemented with 1035€ a month in the tip jar will be able to support that many artists with more than a couple of nickels.

Of course the artists can make money elsewhere but doesn´t this mean when all is said and done, that Jamendo is just another way of promoting music without solving the problem of making a significant amount of money on the music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote] &#8220;But the data that drew my attention is the number of donations people are making to individual artists. It’s not a lot so far, but Jamendo is on its way to creating a community that rewards great music without qualms.&#8221;</p>
<p>I made a quick count on donations from october 2007 (http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=donorslist). The site had around 100 users donating approximately 1035€.</p>
<p>The site has around 1800 artists taking donations (http://www.jamendo.com/en/?artistswithdonate=1&amp;p=artists)</p>
<p>This means that by average one artist makes around 0,5€ a month from donations.</p>
<p>The point is: Unless the statistics I´ve used from Jamendo is incorrect, it is difficult to see that this is good business.</p>
<p>Indeed I think the business model itself is interesting and perhaps it has a lot of potentiel. But to say it works is quite a different story. And if we look at the facts, the number of donations has risen the last years, but it is really not an astonishing increase.</p>
<p>Well another interesting fact is that Jamendo has 337129 registered artists (sounds crazy but the site says so) and 205153 registered users (http://www.jamendo.com/en/?p=stats). That&#8217;s more artists than users. I cannot see how the income from adds based on this number of users supplemented with 1035€ a month in the tip jar will be able to support that many artists with more than a couple of nickels.</p>
<p>Of course the artists can make money elsewhere but doesn´t this mean when all is said and done, that Jamendo is just another way of promoting music without solving the problem of making a significant amount of money on the music?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THis is a very interesting model. Thanks for posting about it.</description>
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