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	<title>Comments on: Huh? The Kindle e-reader ISN&#8217;T ugly? So says Steve Levy, author of Newsweek puff piece&#8212;in response to my Publishers Weekly blog</title>
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		<title>By: Liora</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/huh-the-kindle-e-reader-isnt-ugly-so-says-newsweeks-steve-levy-author-of-newsweek-puff-piece-in-response-to-my-publishers-weekly-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-993875</link>
		<dc:creator>Liora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never thought it was ugly and never understood what people thought was so hideous. It almost seems like everyone is just echoing some early adopter reviews. This is coming from someone who has only seen the photos, which are supposed to be worse than seeing the kindle in person. To each her own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never thought it was ugly and never understood what people thought was so hideous. It almost seems like everyone is just echoing some early adopter reviews. This is coming from someone who has only seen the photos, which are supposed to be worse than seeing the kindle in person. To each her own!</p>
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		<title>By: What Will the Kindle Do for the E-Publishing Industry? : Lillie Ammann, Writer &#38; Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Will the Kindle Do for the E-Publishing Industry? : Lillie Ammann, Writer &#38; Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at PaidContent.org The Future of Reading by Steven Levy at Newsweek (November 26th edition) Huh? The Kindle e-reader ISN’T ugly? So says Steve Levy, author of Newsweek puff piece—in respon... by David Rothman at Teleread Kindle eBook Pricing by Joe Wikert at Publishing 2020 Blog Kindle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at PaidContent.org The Future of Reading by Steven Levy at Newsweek (November 26th edition) Huh? The Kindle e-reader ISN’T ugly? So says Steve Levy, author of Newsweek puff piece—in respon&#8230; by David Rothman at Teleread Kindle eBook Pricing by Joe Wikert at Publishing 2020 Blog Kindle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Writer&#8217;s Words, An Editor&#8217;s Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Will the Kindle Do for the E-Publishing Industry?</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/huh-the-kindle-e-reader-isnt-ugly-so-says-newsweeks-steve-levy-author-of-newsweek-puff-piece-in-response-to-my-publishers-weekly-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-637108</link>
		<dc:creator>A Writer&#8217;s Words, An Editor&#8217;s Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What Will the Kindle Do for the E-Publishing Industry?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Huh? The Kindle e-reader ISN’T ugly? So says Steve Levy, author of Newsweek puff piece—in respon... by David Rothman at Teleread [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roger Metor</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/huh-the-kindle-e-reader-isnt-ugly-so-says-newsweeks-steve-levy-author-of-newsweek-puff-piece-in-response-to-my-publishers-weekly-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-633655</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Metor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Zundle is most obviously not ugly; except it is not brown.</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/huh-the-kindle-e-reader-isnt-ugly-so-says-newsweeks-steve-levy-author-of-newsweek-puff-piece-in-response-to-my-publishers-weekly-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-633653</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;More troublesome is the proprietary approach and various gotcha charges.&lt;/i&gt;

I'm not quite sure I understand why you hawk the IDPF so much; maybe it would be good to do an article about the advantages it brings to the reader. A universal standard is far from appearing, and mobi/plucker/azw/etc could become that well-used standard just as easily as IDPF could. Who (if anyone) is publishing content or reader hardware/software for this "industry standard" today?

And what gotcha charges are you talking about? There's the 10-cent translation charge, which can be avoided by not wirelessly emailing the translated content to the Kindle. There's the 99-cent blog subscription charge (I haven't figured out whether it is monthly or eternal), which can be avoided by using the builtin web browser. Both of these are basically 'pay for the convenience of having it pushed to my Kindle', and I don't perceive this as a gotcha. What other &lt;i&gt;gotchas&lt;/i&gt; did you have in mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>More troublesome is the proprietary approach and various gotcha charges.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure I understand why you hawk the IDPF so much; maybe it would be good to do an article about the advantages it brings to the reader. A universal standard is far from appearing, and mobi/plucker/azw/etc could become that well-used standard just as easily as IDPF could. Who (if anyone) is publishing content or reader hardware/software for this &#8220;industry standard&#8221; today?</p>
<p>And what gotcha charges are you talking about? There&#8217;s the 10-cent translation charge, which can be avoided by not wirelessly emailing the translated content to the Kindle. There&#8217;s the 99-cent blog subscription charge (I haven&#8217;t figured out whether it is monthly or eternal), which can be avoided by using the builtin web browser. Both of these are basically &#8216;pay for the convenience of having it pushed to my Kindle&#8217;, and I don&#8217;t perceive this as a gotcha. What other <i>gotchas</i> did you have in mind?</p>
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		<title>By: pond</title>
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		<dc:creator>pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the bloggers at ZDNet has had a Kindle for a few weeks to play with --- he also claims the thing "looks a lot better in person than it does in the photos."

As far as the looks go, for most users I would expect that they would soon not notice the device at all, and see only what is displayed in the screen. But looks &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; matter when other people, non-users, see you with your Kindle. "Hey dude, what's with the funny-looking thing?" as opposed to "Hey man that thing looks &lt;i&gt;so cool&lt;/i&gt; --- where can I get one?"

And of course most of us will only get to preview a Kindle via these same photographs. Amazon would be well-advised to get some pretty-catalog photographers to shoot really beautiful product shots of the thing to send out.

As for the touch-screen, Kindle no got: instead using the 'Select Wheel' you navigate up and down by line, or from link to link, then press the wheel to click. This is the impression I got from reading the Kindle User's Guide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the bloggers at ZDNet has had a Kindle for a few weeks to play with &#8212; he also claims the thing &#8220;looks a lot better in person than it does in the photos.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as the looks go, for most users I would expect that they would soon not notice the device at all, and see only what is displayed in the screen. But looks <i>do</i> matter when other people, non-users, see you with your Kindle. &#8220;Hey dude, what&#8217;s with the funny-looking thing?&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;Hey man that thing looks <i>so cool</i> &#8212; where can I get one?&#8221;</p>
<p>And of course most of us will only get to preview a Kindle via these same photographs. Amazon would be well-advised to get some pretty-catalog photographers to shoot really beautiful product shots of the thing to send out.</p>
<p>As for the touch-screen, Kindle no got: instead using the &#8216;Select Wheel&#8217; you navigate up and down by line, or from link to link, then press the wheel to click. This is the impression I got from reading the Kindle User&#8217;s Guide.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/huh-the-kindle-e-reader-isnt-ugly-so-says-newsweeks-steve-levy-author-of-newsweek-puff-piece-in-response-to-my-publishers-weekly-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-633213</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryan: I certainly agree that looks are just one detail. More troublesome is the proprietary approach and various gotcha charges. THAT is why old-time e-book people are bashing the Kindle. They remember the Gemstar fiasco. I think the Kindle will do better since Amazon controls so much content, but something is still terribly, terribly wrong when we think the world is moving to raze the Tower of eBabel and then Amazon pops up with yet another proprietary format. - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryan: I certainly agree that looks are just one detail. More troublesome is the proprietary approach and various gotcha charges. THAT is why old-time e-book people are bashing the Kindle. They remember the Gemstar fiasco. I think the Kindle will do better since Amazon controls so much content, but something is still terribly, terribly wrong when we think the world is moving to raze the Tower of eBabel and then Amazon pops up with yet another proprietary format. - David</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/huh-the-kindle-e-reader-isnt-ugly-so-says-newsweeks-steve-levy-author-of-newsweek-puff-piece-in-response-to-my-publishers-weekly-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-633153</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been looking - hard! - at the Kindle on and off all day. I checked out all the videos on Amazon. I read most of the "reviews". I'm putting that word in scare quotes, because most reviewers have never seen one.

And I'm pretty tired of all the 'Your Kindle's so ugly ...' hating that's going on. First, David, you're right: the patent photo made it look bad and no one seems to be able to get that out of their heads. The main video shows a person walking, sitting, using the Kindle, setting it on the counter ... and suddenly it looks fine. Looks good, even! Second, when the hell did 'fashion accessory' become one of the required traits of a p-book replacement? I think people are putting &lt;i&gt;far&lt;/i&gt; too much emphasis on the way this thing looks. I'm beginning to wonder if they aren't working hard to dredge up every possible excuse to hate &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; ebook device with a passion. Third, if you're afraid of being seen in public with it - it comes with a leather case that (on the outside) looks like a book.

Sadly, I see this trend in the ebook communities too. And this has gotten me thinking - are we schizophrenic about ebooks? We claim to want one badly, yet each new e-reader to hit the market seems to evoke even more scorn than the last one. We nitpick them to death, use disparaging and snide language in talking about them. We gleefully condemn the Kindle to failure when it addresses some of our loudest and most recent complaints - Amazon just put 90,000+ ebooks on sale, at prices often much better than the equivalent p-book. 

Seriously, I wonder if our love of books is creating an unconsciously high bar for e-reader devices. Honestly, I've caught myself doing it too; and I'm still doing it - I still have not pressed the order button @ Amazon. Even though I already know that I can move my existing books to it (yes it reads .mobi and .prc) and that there's now an acceptable choice of ebooks for it. The hardware price is high, but at the rate Amazon is discounting Kindle content, I could see recouping that high cost in a year or two.

Maybe it's time to just bite the bullet and dive in! From what I see, Amazon has just moved the ebook ball pretty far downfield. Maybe it's time to go to the stadium and root for the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking - hard! - at the Kindle on and off all day. I checked out all the videos on Amazon. I read most of the &#8220;reviews&#8221;. I&#8217;m putting that word in scare quotes, because most reviewers have never seen one.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m pretty tired of all the &#8216;Your Kindle&#8217;s so ugly &#8230;&#8217; hating that&#8217;s going on. First, David, you&#8217;re right: the patent photo made it look bad and no one seems to be able to get that out of their heads. The main video shows a person walking, sitting, using the Kindle, setting it on the counter &#8230; and suddenly it looks fine. Looks good, even! Second, when the hell did &#8216;fashion accessory&#8217; become one of the required traits of a p-book replacement? I think people are putting <i>far</i> too much emphasis on the way this thing looks. I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if they aren&#8217;t working hard to dredge up every possible excuse to hate <i>any</i> ebook device with a passion. Third, if you&#8217;re afraid of being seen in public with it - it comes with a leather case that (on the outside) looks like a book.</p>
<p>Sadly, I see this trend in the ebook communities too. And this has gotten me thinking - are we schizophrenic about ebooks? We claim to want one badly, yet each new e-reader to hit the market seems to evoke even more scorn than the last one. We nitpick them to death, use disparaging and snide language in talking about them. We gleefully condemn the Kindle to failure when it addresses some of our loudest and most recent complaints - Amazon just put 90,000+ ebooks on sale, at prices often much better than the equivalent p-book. </p>
<p>Seriously, I wonder if our love of books is creating an unconsciously high bar for e-reader devices. Honestly, I&#8217;ve caught myself doing it too; and I&#8217;m still doing it - I still have not pressed the order button @ Amazon. Even though I already know that I can move my existing books to it (yes it reads .mobi and .prc) and that there&#8217;s now an acceptable choice of ebooks for it. The hardware price is high, but at the rate Amazon is discounting Kindle content, I could see recouping that high cost in a year or two.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time to just bite the bullet and dive in! From what I see, Amazon has just moved the ebook ball pretty far downfield. Maybe it&#8217;s time to go to the stadium and root for the team.</p>
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		<title>By: Pietro Watanabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pietro Watanabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That electronic gadget cream color is the equivalence of "appliance white". It so retro and unappealing as a baby drooling cream of wheat. What really concerns me is the probable torque exerted by the 80% of the device when one types on the what has been described as a thumb board. It would seem extensive use would require laying down the device on a supporting surface and typing on it like a standard keyboard (but with a poor layout).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That electronic gadget cream color is the equivalence of &#8220;appliance white&#8221;. It so retro and unappealing as a baby drooling cream of wheat. What really concerns me is the probable torque exerted by the 80% of the device when one types on the what has been described as a thumb board. It would seem extensive use would require laying down the device on a supporting surface and typing on it like a standard keyboard (but with a poor layout).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That white (beige?) color sure won't look pretty after a while.  The original beige/white Macs had a tendency to turn a ghastly yellow over time.

It could look better in person.  Some gadgets don't look good in photos.  Aside from the new iPod nano, there was another recent intro that had bad photos but looked good in person.  But it is too early for my brain to function, retrieval-wise (and maybe sentence-wise too!).

I still can't figure out how someone can comfortably hold it.  And while that keyboard sounds all nifty, I wonder how eInk will perform attempting that?  (Then again, my jaw dipped somewhat over Bookeen's smooth pop-up dialogs and menus...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That white (beige?) color sure won&#8217;t look pretty after a while.  The original beige/white Macs had a tendency to turn a ghastly yellow over time.</p>
<p>It could look better in person.  Some gadgets don&#8217;t look good in photos.  Aside from the new iPod nano, there was another recent intro that had bad photos but looked good in person.  But it is too early for my brain to function, retrieval-wise (and maybe sentence-wise too!).</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t figure out how someone can comfortably hold it.  And while that keyboard sounds all nifty, I wonder how eInk will perform attempting that?  (Then again, my jaw dipped somewhat over Bookeen&#8217;s smooth pop-up dialogs and menus&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Levy article was nothing but an uncritical paean to Amazon.

What we get from it is a mismash of every technical buzzword and concept in the book. Words like "milestone" and "revolution" are mentioned. There's the obligatory iPod analogy. The device is possessed of a "disruptive" nature (well, what isn't these days?) and there's even talk of "Book 2.0".

From there, the author gets totally lost in a discussion of paper vs. electronic and the joys of hypertext (the "always-on book") that could have been written by Vannevar Bush.

The joke is getting people to believe that these limited devices that simply reek of lock-in are preferable to more versatile alternatives like laptops and cellphones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Levy article was nothing but an uncritical paean to Amazon.</p>
<p>What we get from it is a mismash of every technical buzzword and concept in the book. Words like &#8220;milestone&#8221; and &#8220;revolution&#8221; are mentioned. There&#8217;s the obligatory iPod analogy. The device is possessed of a &#8220;disruptive&#8221; nature (well, what isn&#8217;t these days?) and there&#8217;s even talk of &#8220;Book 2.0&#8243;.</p>
<p>From there, the author gets totally lost in a discussion of paper vs. electronic and the joys of hypertext (the &#8220;always-on book&#8221;) that could have been written by Vannevar Bush.</p>
<p>The joke is getting people to believe that these limited devices that simply reek of lock-in are preferable to more versatile alternatives like laptops and cellphones.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Carnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Carnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it looks like a picture of it on the cover of Newsweek, and it looks just as ugly in the cover. OTOH, if it does have a touchscreen....that might really help it overcome the DRM nonsense. But I have a hard time believing they can deliver a touchscreen at that pricepoint when Bokeen and Sony can't, unless they're taking a loss hoping to make money on the service end which would seem to be a very stupid gamble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it looks like a picture of it on the cover of Newsweek, and it looks just as ugly in the cover. OTOH, if it does have a touchscreen&#8230;.that might really help it overcome the DRM nonsense. But I have a hard time believing they can deliver a touchscreen at that pricepoint when Bokeen and Sony can&#8217;t, unless they&#8217;re taking a loss hoping to make money on the service end which would seem to be a very stupid gamble.</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon&#8217;s Kindle: pay to read blogs? WTF? - - mathewingram.com/work</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazon&#8217;s Kindle: pay to read blogs? WTF? - - mathewingram.com/work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Levy says no on his blog, but David Rothman of TeleRead says yes. And will it be open or full of awkward proprietary formats and [...]</description>
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