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	<title>Comments on: PDF capabilities in Kindle: Newsweek puff job reveals more details</title>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-732726</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one.  I like it.  Needs pdf though. Other than that its cool.  I dont want to sound like im selling it.  I read alot of digital format.  So much that sitting in front of my computer READING has become part of my job.   I am a computer programmer and keeping up on tech is not for the unread.  Not that i needed to be anymore lazy than working from home.  But now i can work on the couch.  The newspaper and stuff is nice too.  Just needs pdf so i can transfer my large pdf book library to the thing.  Anyways.. I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one.  I like it.  Needs pdf though. Other than that its cool.  I dont want to sound like im selling it.  I read alot of digital format.  So much that sitting in front of my computer READING has become part of my job.   I am a computer programmer and keeping up on tech is not for the unread.  Not that i needed to be anymore lazy than working from home.  But now i can work on the couch.  The newspaper and stuff is nice too.  Just needs pdf so i can transfer my large pdf book library to the thing.  Anyways.. I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: shahine.com/omar/ - Sony Reader vs Kindle</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-635122</link>
		<dc:creator>shahine.com/omar/ - Sony Reader vs Kindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when most of the bloggers had not owned, uses or lived with a kindle. Were they pissed that Amazon chose to give old media (Newsweek) the scoop? And where are the in-depth comparisons to the product it is going head to head with (the Sony [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when most of the bloggers had not owned, uses or lived with a kindle. Were they pissed that Amazon chose to give old media (Newsweek) the scoop? And where are the in-depth comparisons to the product it is going head to head with (the Sony [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can't imagine ever, ever paying $400 for a device that only does one thing---especially when I suspect the mini-laptop/UMPC/OLPC/whatever movement is on the verge of a breakthrough (once they get overt this ridiculous 'only sell the expensive ones on the open market' thing and let Average Joe or Jane by a $100 model at every Walmart in the world) and I'll be able to spend half for a machine which does twice as much and is not format-locked and requiring ongoing subscription money.

My Palm m125 from years and years ago does more. Granted, its screen is less readable, but if they tweaked that, I would be quite happy with a device exactly like my Palm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t imagine ever, ever paying $400 for a device that only does one thing&#8212;especially when I suspect the mini-laptop/UMPC/OLPC/whatever movement is on the verge of a breakthrough (once they get overt this ridiculous &#8216;only sell the expensive ones on the open market&#8217; thing and let Average Joe or Jane by a $100 model at every Walmart in the world) and I&#8217;ll be able to spend half for a machine which does twice as much and is not format-locked and requiring ongoing subscription money.</p>
<p>My Palm m125 from years and years ago does more. Granted, its screen is less readable, but if they tweaked that, I would be quite happy with a device exactly like my Palm.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-631295</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Robert, it's back to the F word---formats. Steve Levy needed to mention not just Mobi but .epub and also educate people on DRM compatibility issues, which the current .epub specs don't address. Other issues exist such as whether Amazon would be the best place for the largest collection of shared annotations, if that happened (the IDPF doesn't even have an annotations standard for .epub). Jeff Bezos is really proposing for Amazon to function as a library. You're welcome to disagree with me, these things are so subjective, but I don't see how the article can be insightful without decent exploration of such issues. Meanwhile you're spot on about Steve L's infatuation with CEO quotes. Great point! By the way, I shouldn't single out just SL for blame. Haven't the newsweeklies cut back on the number of researchers? Perhaps in the past, he'd have had more help so he wouldn't be so bleepin' oblivious to the full import of the Tower of eBabel. Thanks. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Robert, it&#8217;s back to the F word&#8212;formats. Steve Levy needed to mention not just Mobi but .epub and also educate people on DRM compatibility issues, which the current .epub specs don&#8217;t address. Other issues exist such as whether Amazon would be the best place for the largest collection of shared annotations, if that happened (the IDPF doesn&#8217;t even have an annotations standard for .epub). Jeff Bezos is really proposing for Amazon to function as a library. You&#8217;re welcome to disagree with me, these things are so subjective, but I don&#8217;t see how the article can be insightful without decent exploration of such issues. Meanwhile you&#8217;re spot on about Steve L&#8217;s infatuation with CEO quotes. Great point! By the way, I shouldn&#8217;t single out just SL for blame. Haven&#8217;t the newsweeklies cut back on the number of researchers? Perhaps in the past, he&#8217;d have had more help so he wouldn&#8217;t be so bleepin&#8217; oblivious to the full import of the Tower of eBabel. Thanks. David</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-631291</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;&#62;Proulx (like John Updike in his BookExpo speech) are interesting and profound writers.

To you.  To me: dull and pretentious.

And I do give writers a break.  But Proulx a writer?  Puhleeze.  You slander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Proulx (like John Updike in his BookExpo speech) are interesting and profound writers.</p>
<p>To you.  To me: dull and pretentious.</p>
<p>And I do give writers a break.  But Proulx a writer?  Puhleeze.  You slander.</p>
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		<title>By: Becoming A Writer Seriously &#187; Amazon&#8217;s Kindle: E-Books Attract Mainstream Hype</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-631225</link>
		<dc:creator>Becoming A Writer Seriously &#187; Amazon&#8217;s Kindle: E-Books Attract Mainstream Hype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] highly of the Kindle, which has been fueling a debate among e-book advocates for some months now.  David Rothman at the TeleRead blog is in a bit of a froth about the Kindle&#8217;s &#8220;Soviet-ugly&#8221; appearance and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] highly of the Kindle, which has been fueling a debate among e-book advocates for some months now.  David Rothman at the TeleRead blog is in a bit of a froth about the Kindle&#8217;s &#8220;Soviet-ugly&#8221; appearance and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My complaint with the article (which generally is well written and insightful) is that Steve Levy interviews too many CEO's  and industry leaders. These kinds of people are usually the last people to listen to when trying to understand societal  trends. Perhaps the most amazing thing about the Levy article is that he not once mentions the word "Mobipocket."  In my mind, it's more important to know what Mobipocket is all about than to hear what Bezos and CEOs have to say about the future of reading. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My complaint with the article (which generally is well written and insightful) is that Steve Levy interviews too many CEO&#8217;s  and industry leaders. These kinds of people are usually the last people to listen to when trying to understand societal  trends. Perhaps the most amazing thing about the Levy article is that he not once mentions the word &#8220;Mobipocket.&#8221;  In my mind, it&#8217;s more important to know what Mobipocket is all about than to hear what Bezos and CEOs have to say about the future of reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nagle</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-631158</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, Mike, 

Proulx (like John Updike in his BookExpo speech) are interesting and profound writers. They may not be correct on the technological issues, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss their thoughts and insights into the nature of reading.  

And please, give writers a break. They say a lot of crazy things over a lifetime. The difference between writers and nonwriters is that most of their idiotic thoughts end up on paper or a webpage  somewhere. Finding a thing or two they were wrong about 10 years ago is an easy and trivial task. Speculating on the future is a risky venture, but I'd rather people keep speculating than just STFU. 

I didn't like the name either, but after discussing this with someone in marketing, I'm not so sure. It's two syllables, easy-to-pronounce and has all sorts of connotations. The name is irrelevant of course; the technology and  rendering is the key thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, Mike, </p>
<p>Proulx (like John Updike in his BookExpo speech) are interesting and profound writers. They may not be correct on the technological issues, but I wouldn&#8217;t be too quick to dismiss their thoughts and insights into the nature of reading.  </p>
<p>And please, give writers a break. They say a lot of crazy things over a lifetime. The difference between writers and nonwriters is that most of their idiotic thoughts end up on paper or a webpage  somewhere. Finding a thing or two they were wrong about 10 years ago is an easy and trivial task. Speculating on the future is a risky venture, but I&#8217;d rather people keep speculating than just STFU. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t like the name either, but after discussing this with someone in marketing, I&#8217;m not so sure. It&#8217;s two syllables, easy-to-pronounce and has all sorts of connotations. The name is irrelevant of course; the technology and  rendering is the key thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-631068</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Levy himself asks: &lt;a href="http://www.stevenlevy.com/index.php/2007/11/18/is-the-kindle-ugly/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Is the Kindle Ugly?&lt;/a&gt;

Well, the bloody NAME is.  WTF kind of name is that, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Levy himself asks: <a href="http://www.stevenlevy.com/index.php/2007/11/18/is-the-kindle-ugly/" rel="nofollow">Is the Kindle Ugly?</a></p>
<p>Well, the bloody NAME is.  WTF kind of name is that, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2007/11/18/pdf-capabilities-in-kindle-newsweek-puff-job-reveals-more-details/#comment-630867</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;&#62;In 1994, for instance, fiction writer Annie Proulx was quoted as saying, "Nobody is going to sit down and read a novel on a twitchy little screen. Ever."

Listen, Proulx, I wouldn't read your crap on GOLD PAPER that I could then sell afterwards!  Some writers should just STFU.  It's not as if what they say is either 1) True, 2) Sensible, or 3) What they have written and still write is ACTUALLY WORTH THE TIME TO READ.

&#62;&#62;&#62;(I've been reading Boswell's "Life of Johnson" on my iPhone, a device that is expected to be a major outlet for e-books in the coming months.)

LEVY JUST LEAKED!  Apple will do ebooks!  (For those who have forgotten, Levy wrote the history of the Mac.   He knows Apple Insiders!  Has probably been under NDA for this too!)

&#62;&#62;&#62;Readers have long complained that new books cost too much; the $9.99 charge for new releases and best sellers is Amazon's answer.

That answer is not good enough for me.  Ebooks must not go beyond $4.99.

&#62;&#62;&#62;(You can also get classics for a song: I downloaded "Bleak House" for $1.99.)

He brags he paid for FREE?

&#62;&#62;&#62;"The idea of authorship will change and become more of a process than a product," says Ben Vershbow, associate director of the institute.

Yeah, good luck with that notion.  I read the products of individual people, not their frikkin FAN CLUB.  (You know how absolutely USELESS most posts on an author's website are?)

&#62;&#62;&#62;"Michael Chabon will have to rethink how he writes for this medium," he says. Brantley envisions wiki-style collaborations where the author, instead of being the sole authority, is a "superuser," the lead wolf of a creative pack.

Kill.  Me.  NOW.

Eh.  I'd be surprised if the Kindle went anywhere.  That design is fugly.  I don't care that it has wireless and you can search in a text.  Most people will look at that array of keys and throw up their hands in disgust.  The visceral response will be, Hey, I don't have to learn anything NEW to read a BOOK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;In 1994, for instance, fiction writer Annie Proulx was quoted as saying, &#8220;Nobody is going to sit down and read a novel on a twitchy little screen. Ever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Listen, Proulx, I wouldn&#8217;t read your crap on GOLD PAPER that I could then sell afterwards!  Some writers should just STFU.  It&#8217;s not as if what they say is either 1) True, 2) Sensible, or 3) What they have written and still write is ACTUALLY WORTH THE TIME TO READ.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;(I&#8217;ve been reading Boswell&#8217;s &#8220;Life of Johnson&#8221; on my iPhone, a device that is expected to be a major outlet for e-books in the coming months.)</p>
<p>LEVY JUST LEAKED!  Apple will do ebooks!  (For those who have forgotten, Levy wrote the history of the Mac.   He knows Apple Insiders!  Has probably been under NDA for this too!)</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Readers have long complained that new books cost too much; the $9.99 charge for new releases and best sellers is Amazon&#8217;s answer.</p>
<p>That answer is not good enough for me.  Ebooks must not go beyond $4.99.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;(You can also get classics for a song: I downloaded &#8220;Bleak House&#8221; for $1.99.)</p>
<p>He brags he paid for FREE?</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;The idea of authorship will change and become more of a process than a product,&#8221; says Ben Vershbow, associate director of the institute.</p>
<p>Yeah, good luck with that notion.  I read the products of individual people, not their frikkin FAN CLUB.  (You know how absolutely USELESS most posts on an author&#8217;s website are?)</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;Michael Chabon will have to rethink how he writes for this medium,&#8221; he says. Brantley envisions wiki-style collaborations where the author, instead of being the sole authority, is a &#8220;superuser,&#8221; the lead wolf of a creative pack.</p>
<p>Kill.  Me.  NOW.</p>
<p>Eh.  I&#8217;d be surprised if the Kindle went anywhere.  That design is fugly.  I don&#8217;t care that it has wireless and you can search in a text.  Most people will look at that array of keys and throw up their hands in disgust.  The visceral response will be, Hey, I don&#8217;t have to learn anything NEW to read a BOOK!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?  Kindle TOUCHSCREEN?

&#62;&#62;&#62;You can jot down a gloss on the page of the book you're reading, or capture passages with an electronic version of a highlight pen.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?  Kindle TOUCHSCREEN?</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;You can jot down a gloss on the page of the book you&#8217;re reading, or capture passages with an electronic version of a highlight pen.</p>
<p>Huh?  What?</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Paul. In fairness to Amazon, I can recall reading somewhere that the Kindle will also do WiFi. True? We shouldn't take the EVDO-only scenario for granted. Thanks. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Paul. In fairness to Amazon, I can recall reading somewhere that the Kindle will also do WiFi. True? We shouldn&#8217;t take the EVDO-only scenario for granted. Thanks. David</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Biba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Biba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will be interested to see if there is a charge for the EVDO portion. $400 list price and a data charge on top of that does not seem to be a viable business model to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will be interested to see if there is a charge for the EVDO portion. $400 list price and a data charge on top of that does not seem to be a viable business model to me.</p>
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