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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Hearing is the last thing to go&#8217;: On life, death and permanent links</title>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind words, Beth. The worst time of day is when I'd call my mother---that's when I especially miss her. Meanwhile you should feel good about the help you've provided your own mother. You won't regret the time you've spent with her. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your kind words, Beth. The worst time of day is when I&#8217;d call my mother&#8212;that&#8217;s when I especially miss her. Meanwhile you should feel good about the help you&#8217;ve provided your own mother. You won&#8217;t regret the time you&#8217;ve spent with her. David</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Wellington</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/03/31/hearing-is-the-last-thing-to-go-on-life-death-and-permanent-links/#comment-767948</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Wellington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've written a moving remembrance. May your mom live on in her influence on you and Dorothy, even as you miss her. My thoughts are with you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve written a moving remembrance. May your mom live on in her influence on you and Dorothy, even as you miss her. My thoughts are with you both.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/03/31/hearing-is-the-last-thing-to-go-on-life-death-and-permanent-links/#comment-753178</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unique Visitor and J. McNair: Thanks, both of you.

JM: Thanks for your ideas. I may mention my mother from time to time, but I still hesitate to do even a brief bio, given her wishes.

As for something longer, that's out of the question for a second reason, too: &lt;a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27719.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Happy families are all alike."&lt;/a&gt; Unhappy families? More fun---in fiction.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unique Visitor and J. McNair: Thanks, both of you.</p>
<p>JM: Thanks for your ideas. I may mention my mother from time to time, but I still hesitate to do even a brief bio, given her wishes.</p>
<p>As for something longer, that&#8217;s out of the question for a second reason, too: <a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27719.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Happy families are all alike.&#8221;</a> Unhappy families? More fun&#8212;in fiction.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: J. McNair</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. McNair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow, this is late, but as a longtime lurker, my deepest condolences to you and yours.

And I would like to quietly vote interest in a biography, however brief, of your mom.

In fact, it'd be nice, in a possibly Teleread + automatic blogging future, if there were a way to collect the work of loved ones for this purpose. Not for publishing, but for remembering and preserving personal and family histories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, this is late, but as a longtime lurker, my deepest condolences to you and yours.</p>
<p>And I would like to quietly vote interest in a biography, however brief, of your mom.</p>
<p>In fact, it&#8217;d be nice, in a possibly Teleread + automatic blogging future, if there were a way to collect the work of loved ones for this purpose. Not for publishing, but for remembering and preserving personal and family histories.</p>
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		<title>By: unique_visitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>unique_visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear david;

i'm always with you and rooting for you, as ever... as you well know. 

Loss and grief are always hard, no matter what, who or when, but you have many, many people who care and want to help get you through and you will. Anything else I could write would just sound trite so I will stop on this subject here.

Regarding Internet links, etc. - yes, I agree with you. Removing them is not so different from when the Soviets would alter images to remove a person, as if they never had been, or had ceased to exist, and this is what some of the larger conglomerates are doing - it sounds like PW has had a hand in this, i know because i went searching for some of your articles and was unable to find even the permalinks, which I found quite disturbing.

When you can do this on the Web, it gets worrisome to me. Since when did become rewriting history become part of publishing and not something we publish *about*? 

I always thought that the Fourth Estate held us to a higher standard than that... It grieves me to think that my fellow members of the Estate do not feel bound by the same code of honor or conduct. 

Alas, so be it. But tant pis for everyone who will miss that work and the work that went into those pieces. In the final account, one feels it reflects poorly on the company who removes the links, but certainly not on you at all... if anything, you are missed and they are noticed but for all of the wrong reasons.

I've said my peace.

Be well,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear david;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m always with you and rooting for you, as ever&#8230; as you well know. </p>
<p>Loss and grief are always hard, no matter what, who or when, but you have many, many people who care and want to help get you through and you will. Anything else I could write would just sound trite so I will stop on this subject here.</p>
<p>Regarding Internet links, etc. - yes, I agree with you. Removing them is not so different from when the Soviets would alter images to remove a person, as if they never had been, or had ceased to exist, and this is what some of the larger conglomerates are doing - it sounds like PW has had a hand in this, i know because i went searching for some of your articles and was unable to find even the permalinks, which I found quite disturbing.</p>
<p>When you can do this on the Web, it gets worrisome to me. Since when did become rewriting history become part of publishing and not something we publish *about*? </p>
<p>I always thought that the Fourth Estate held us to a higher standard than that&#8230; It grieves me to think that my fellow members of the Estate do not feel bound by the same code of honor or conduct. </p>
<p>Alas, so be it. But tant pis for everyone who will miss that work and the work that went into those pieces. In the final account, one feels it reflects poorly on the company who removes the links, but certainly not on you at all&#8230; if anything, you are missed and they are noticed but for all of the wrong reasons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said my peace.</p>
<p>Be well,</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continued thanks to all for their condolences. 

As for writing in great detail about my mother, that would be tough; I learned yesterday that she didn't even want a newspaper obituary, just a little paid death notice. Even so, I don't regret sharing what I did about her life and death. It will be something to show her almost-born great-granddaughter when the time is right---without the risk of any pulped wood having been misplaced. Of course, I've always had mixed feelings about writing up personal lives of nonVIPs who aren't in the news, not unless they want or will tolerate it. Anyway, isn't that part of what fiction is for? 

While I'm remembering my mother, however, let me mention she herself worked in her 20s as a social worker, so, ahead of time, she perhaps knew the drill.

Just as relevantly, she also wrote for a stretch for a business news reporting service. Oh, these writer genes. It's not the same as having had Toni Morrison as Mom or Kingsley Amis as Dad, but I'll do a little brag anyway. No copy editor was ever as demanding as my mother was with my Hanukkah thank-you notes. All the teachers and the digital libraries in the world can't replicate that. It is one reason why I can't think "literacy" without also thinking "family," and why I see TeleRead as a library for all, not just K-12, given the importance of parents as role models.

A few final details here. Ever the planner, my mother wrote a simple but eloquent obit for family and friends---which my sister read aloud yesterday but which I'll &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; reproduce here. Unfortunately Mom was too shy to develop her talents. She grew up, in an age much different from our MySpace era, among people who thought it was uncouth even to make the daily papers for noncriminal activities except for birth notices and the like. In declining an obit, she went even beyond her peers. Who knows if she got a byline on her business reports, or how far they circulated? I suspect she didn't get any public credit and may well have wanted it that way.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued thanks to all for their condolences. </p>
<p>As for writing in great detail about my mother, that would be tough; I learned yesterday that she didn&#8217;t even want a newspaper obituary, just a little paid death notice. Even so, I don&#8217;t regret sharing what I did about her life and death. It will be something to show her almost-born great-granddaughter when the time is right&#8212;without the risk of any pulped wood having been misplaced. Of course, I&#8217;ve always had mixed feelings about writing up personal lives of nonVIPs who aren&#8217;t in the news, not unless they want or will tolerate it. Anyway, isn&#8217;t that part of what fiction is for? </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m remembering my mother, however, let me mention she herself worked in her 20s as a social worker, so, ahead of time, she perhaps knew the drill.</p>
<p>Just as relevantly, she also wrote for a stretch for a business news reporting service. Oh, these writer genes. It&#8217;s not the same as having had Toni Morrison as Mom or Kingsley Amis as Dad, but I&#8217;ll do a little brag anyway. No copy editor was ever as demanding as my mother was with my Hanukkah thank-you notes. All the teachers and the digital libraries in the world can&#8217;t replicate that. It is one reason why I can&#8217;t think &#8220;literacy&#8221; without also thinking &#8220;family,&#8221; and why I see TeleRead as a library for all, not just K-12, given the importance of parents as role models.</p>
<p>A few final details here. Ever the planner, my mother wrote a simple but eloquent obit for family and friends&#8212;which my sister read aloud yesterday but which I&#8217;ll <em>not</em> reproduce here. Unfortunately Mom was too shy to develop her talents. She grew up, in an age much different from our MySpace era, among people who thought it was uncouth even to make the daily papers for noncriminal activities except for birth notices and the like. In declining an obit, she went even beyond her peers. Who knows if she got a byline on her business reports, or how far they circulated? I suspect she didn&#8217;t get any public credit and may well have wanted it that way.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good mother is a blessing forever.

Condolences on your loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good mother is a blessing forever.</p>
<p>Condolences on your loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Garson O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garson O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your description shows that your mother was a wonderful woman with a fine son. From personal experience I know that losing a parent is a very sad event. I offer my condolences to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your description shows that your mother was a wonderful woman with a fine son. From personal experience I know that losing a parent is a very sad event. I offer my condolences to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sympathies as well, David. Losing a parent is losing a part of yourself.

I hope you'll write down your memories of her--she lived through some of the most exciting and horrible years of our history.

Rob Preece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sympathies as well, David. Losing a parent is losing a part of yourself.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll write down your memories of her&#8211;she lived through some of the most exciting and horrible years of our history.</p>
<p>Rob Preece</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Biba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Biba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arlington cemetery is actually a lovely place.  Best regards and my sincere sympathy.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arlington cemetery is actually a lovely place.  Best regards and my sincere sympathy.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gilster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gilster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So sorry to hear this, David. All best wishes as you and your family get through such trying times.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sorry to hear this, David. All best wishes as you and your family get through such trying times.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joscha and Franko: Thanks, both of you. The TeleBlog is, as it should be, just one part of my life, and I've always valued family over business and tried for the most part to separate the two. That said, I really can't do the the blog without thinking of both my parents. My father was an artist, I'm definitely not, but maybe some of his influences show up here. Likewise, as I've written, my mother was a community person in an old-fashioned sense, a stellar role model even if online is no replacement for real life. Meanwhile I'm going to do some more work today, then meet my sister at the funeral home where we'll be making arrangements for Mom's cremation. My father served in the U.S. Army in the Second World War, and her ashes will be with his at Arlington, the military cemetery, across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C. Thanks. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joscha and Franko: Thanks, both of you. The TeleBlog is, as it should be, just one part of my life, and I&#8217;ve always valued family over business and tried for the most part to separate the two. That said, I really can&#8217;t do the the blog without thinking of both my parents. My father was an artist, I&#8217;m definitely not, but maybe some of his influences show up here. Likewise, as I&#8217;ve written, my mother was a community person in an old-fashioned sense, a stellar role model even if online is no replacement for real life. Meanwhile I&#8217;m going to do some more work today, then meet my sister at the funeral home where we&#8217;ll be making arrangements for Mom&#8217;s cremation. My father served in the U.S. Army in the Second World War, and her ashes will be with his at Arlington, the military cemetery, across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C. Thanks. David</p>
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		<title>By: franko</title>
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		<dc:creator>franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a beautiful writeup, david. i am very sorry for your loss. i am amazed you were able to keep up daily postings here, now that i have a bit of insight into what was going on for you on a personal level. thank you for all you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a beautiful writeup, david. i am very sorry for your loss. i am amazed you were able to keep up daily postings here, now that i have a bit of insight into what was going on for you on a personal level. thank you for all you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joscha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joscha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear David, my condolences too go to you. Sincerely,
Joscha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear David, my condolences too go to you. Sincerely,<br />
Joscha</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jon. Dorothy and I will miss Mom &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt;. Now to see if I can't track down that chocolate icebox recipe and share it, as I know she'd have liked! - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jon. Dorothy and I will miss Mom <em>a lot</em>. Now to see if I can&#8217;t track down that chocolate icebox recipe and share it, as I know she&#8217;d have liked! - David</p>
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