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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft e-reading software probable for OLPC machine as XP decision becomes official: DRM coming?</title>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Todd. I wonder if "extra hardware" means a 2G SD card--which would be no big deal. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Todd. I wonder if &#8220;extra hardware&#8221; means a 2G SD card&#8211;which would be no big deal. David</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Another possible factor, from an article that appeared yesterday on Ars Technica: &lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The New York Times says that the Windows license and the extra hardware required to support Windows brings the total cost of the XO machines up to approximately $200 each&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Dunno what this business about "extra hardware required to support Windows" is all about, but it may preclude installing XP on existing XOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Another possible factor, from an article that appeared yesterday on Ars Technica: <i><br />
<blockquote>The New York Times says that the Windows license and the extra hardware required to support Windows brings the total cost of the XO machines up to approximately $200 each</p></blockquote>
<p></i>Dunno what this business about &#8220;extra hardware required to support Windows&#8221; is all about, but it may preclude installing XP on existing XOs.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd: I'm not getting my hopes up, but I did see the following just now in an &lt;a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Official_OLPC_FAQ#Can_I_load_Microsoft_Windows_or_my_own_software_onto_the_XO_laptop.3F" rel="nofollow"&gt;FAQ in an OLPC Wiki&lt;/a&gt;:

"Can I load Microsoft Windows or my own software onto the XO laptop?

"At this exact moment in time, no, but possibly in the near future.

"OLPC maintains a firm and unequivocal commitment to open source software. Having an open system is fundamental to OLPC's mission, please see: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en

"Any software developed by or for OLPC is released under GPL v2. The open source community remains a critical success factor in the one laptop per child mission.

"Microsoft is developing a version of its XP operating system that runs on the XO laptop. OLPC will continue to develop its Linux-based OS and distribute it on all its XO laptops. Future distributions may include both open and proprietary software; however, the choice of what to use will remain the child's and the default will remain open source." 

Still ambiguity here, but who knows? Perhaps the support would come from Microsoft (seller of the XP) rather than OLPC.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd: I&#8217;m not getting my hopes up, but I did see the following just now in an <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Official_OLPC_FAQ#Can_I_load_Microsoft_Windows_or_my_own_software_onto_the_XO_laptop.3F" rel="nofollow">FAQ in an OLPC Wiki</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can I load Microsoft Windows or my own software onto the XO laptop?</p>
<p>&#8220;At this exact moment in time, no, but possibly in the near future.</p>
<p>&#8220;OLPC maintains a firm and unequivocal commitment to open source software. Having an open system is fundamental to OLPC&#8217;s mission, please see: <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Core_principles/lang-en</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Any software developed by or for OLPC is released under GPL v2. The open source community remains a critical success factor in the one laptop per child mission.</p>
<p>&#8220;Microsoft is developing a version of its XP operating system that runs on the XO laptop. OLPC will continue to develop its Linux-based OS and distribute it on all its XO laptops. Future distributions may include both open and proprietary software; however, the choice of what to use will remain the child&#8217;s and the default will remain open source.&#8221; </p>
<p>Still ambiguity here, but who knows? Perhaps the support would come from Microsoft (seller of the XP) rather than OLPC.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  It appears that the Dobies now remove hypertext links from posts.  The "scathing rant" to which I referred above can be found at "radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  It appears that the Dobies now remove hypertext links from posts.  The &#8220;scathing rant&#8221; to which I referred above can be found at &#8220;radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David asks:

&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone know if/when existing XO-1 owners in the Give One Get One program will get access to Windows?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.  By all accounts OLPC has huge infrastructure problems, and I seriously doubt that software upgrades for devices they've already sold are anywhere near the top of their priority list.  My guess is that you'll have to wait for the Give Another One, Get Another One program to be announced.

And that's assuming OPLC manages to stay afloat.  Key members of the project team have been dropping like flies recently, and if this &lt;a&gt; scathing rant&lt;/a&gt; is representative, OLPC may well be on its last legs.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

That assertion certainly made for good propaganda, but I suspect that in reality it was Double-N's baby all the way.  The open source community doesn't usually warm to benevolent despots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David asks:</p>
<p><i><br />
<blockquote>Anyone know if/when existing XO-1 owners in the Give One Get One program will get access to Windows?</p></blockquote>
<p></i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath if I were you.  By all accounts OLPC has huge infrastructure problems, and I seriously doubt that software upgrades for devices they&#8217;ve already sold are anywhere near the top of their priority list.  My guess is that you&#8217;ll have to wait for the Give Another One, Get Another One program to be announced.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s assuming OPLC manages to stay afloat.  Key members of the project team have been dropping like flies recently, and if this <a> scathing rant</a> is representative, OLPC may well be on its last legs.</p>
<p><i><br />
<blockquote>OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community</p></blockquote>
<p></i></p>
<p>That assertion certainly made for good propaganda, but I suspect that in reality it was Double-N&#8217;s baby all the way.  The open source community doesn&#8217;t usually warm to benevolent despots.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill and Alan...

B: Actually there is the risk of DRM ending up on the XO because of pressure from misguided educational publishers. As for commercial vs. noncommerical, I still maintain that economies of scale would be more achievable without sharp lines between the two. Then we'd see more apps created. A bunch of open source people did get XOs as developers, and I just wish one of them had gone to the trouble to Sugarize FBReader.

A: Couldn't agree with you more about the barriers that Sugar threw up. Remember, though: OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community. So the mistake happened within it.

Thanks,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill and Alan&#8230;</p>
<p>B: Actually there is the risk of DRM ending up on the XO because of pressure from misguided educational publishers. As for commercial vs. noncommerical, I still maintain that economies of scale would be more achievable without sharp lines between the two. Then we&#8217;d see more apps created. A bunch of open source people did get XOs as developers, and I just wish one of them had gone to the trouble to Sugarize FBReader.</p>
<p>A: Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more about the barriers that Sugar threw up. Remember, though: OLPC itself was supposedly part of the open source community. So the mistake happened within it.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wallcraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wallcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isn't with the open source community.  OLPC essentially "closed" the XO-1 by requiring everything to go though the Sugar interface.  If OLPC had made it easy to integrate existing Linux apps into the machine then they could have leveraged a much wider community.  Instead their solution is to switch to another OS and (presumably) not tie it to Sugar.  Then Linux can be blamed for the problem, instead of OLPC's poor design choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t with the open source community.  OLPC essentially &#8220;closed&#8221; the XO-1 by requiring everything to go though the Sugar interface.  If OLPC had made it easy to integrate existing Linux apps into the machine then they could have leveraged a much wider community.  Instead their solution is to switch to another OS and (presumably) not tie it to Sugar.  Then Linux can be blamed for the problem, instead of OLPC&#8217;s poor design choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Monks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Monks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify what I said there. I'm not suggesting that the OLPC project themselves are going to release a commercial version. It would jar with them being a charity.

However the technology behind the XO can be licensed so the screen could surface in other tablets. In fact I'm pretty sure the lady behind the screen tech (too lazy to look up) left the project with a view to commercializing the technology, possibly in the e-book area but I can't remember the specifics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify what I said there. I&#8217;m not suggesting that the OLPC project themselves are going to release a commercial version. It would jar with them being a charity.</p>
<p>However the technology behind the XO can be licensed so the screen could surface in other tablets. In fact I&#8217;m pretty sure the lady behind the screen tech (too lazy to look up) left the project with a view to commercializing the technology, possibly in the e-book area but I can&#8217;t remember the specifics.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Monks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Monks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Yes, I’m disappointed mainly at the OLPC leadership. But the free and open source community didn’t help, either. In e-book terms, an XO-ized FBReader could have made a world of difference in the ease of use and flexibility of the XO-1 as a reading tool—and thus have helped to make the open approach more appealing. Weren’t e-books to be among the XO-1’s main apps?"

The XO isn't a commercial device so chances are there aren't that many in the hands of opensource developers anyway. As it isn't (and can't be) a commercial project I doubt there'll be much effort put into DRMed e-books by MS, particularly as it's going to be hard enough to squeeze XP onto an XO as it is.

What you're REALLY looking forward to is the 2nd generation of licensed and commercialized XOs which should be coming any day now (hopefully). I'm sure those will come with the option of XP - it wouldn't make any sense for them not to. Using the UMPC XP license that's now been given the greenlight by MS should let them run most Windows software.

All theoretical, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, I’m disappointed mainly at the OLPC leadership. But the free and open source community didn’t help, either. In e-book terms, an XO-ized FBReader could have made a world of difference in the ease of use and flexibility of the XO-1 as a reading tool—and thus have helped to make the open approach more appealing. Weren’t e-books to be among the XO-1’s main apps?&#8221;</p>
<p>The XO isn&#8217;t a commercial device so chances are there aren&#8217;t that many in the hands of opensource developers anyway. As it isn&#8217;t (and can&#8217;t be) a commercial project I doubt there&#8217;ll be much effort put into DRMed e-books by MS, particularly as it&#8217;s going to be hard enough to squeeze XP onto an XO as it is.</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re REALLY looking forward to is the 2nd generation of licensed and commercialized XOs which should be coming any day now (hopefully). I&#8217;m sure those will come with the option of XP - it wouldn&#8217;t make any sense for them not to. Using the UMPC XP license that&#8217;s now been given the greenlight by MS should let them run most Windows software.</p>
<p>All theoretical, of course.</p>
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